Yurlungur
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during the match when i saw it, it launched maybe it launches on sidestep or w/e
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during the match when i saw it, it launched maybe it launches on sidestep or w/e
Ayane's 4P does not launch on NH.
Also @SilverForte - Raidou's Fireball is a High. Before what was it?
Also @SilverForte - Raidou's Fireball is a High. Before what was it?
I was trolling bboy about the 10 frame jab.....lol
Yurlungur
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Bboy and i always troll each other lol. where did u see alphas jab is 10 as well? I dont remember trolling about that but who knows lol. My stream monster personality came out today lol
JAG THE GEMINI
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Yeah Ayanes 4P DOES NOT launch on NH! BTW, Ein´s 4k looked somewhat fast...
Don't suppose you ran into Honoka/Raidou's poke speeds at any point, did you?
Nah. It doesn't suck. She gets a CB combo from it with the ceiling AND a wall combo with the ceiling (wall slam & then combo into the ceiling). It's also a guaranteed combo from breakable object. She has a variety of ways that she can use it. Not many know how it is used or how good she is in general. She is a very well-rounded character in all actuality.
SilverForte
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I think it was a mid. I dunno for sure as I never used it.
SilverForte
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Raidous 2p was 13f, shouldn't have changed.
It's guaranteed because it's weak. There are a variety of ways to use it, and I think Momiji is definitely a decent character. But that move sucks regardless. lol
David Gregg
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@Mr. Wah did the properties of Eliot's 7P change? Someone is saying they did but I can't see due to fighting with my shitty connection. -_-
Edit: Nevermind just saw @Yurlungur 's post. Awesome news indeed.
Edit: Nevermind just saw @Yurlungur 's post. Awesome news indeed.
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67/88/98 damage for neutral hit is not weak lol. 67 on it's own, 88 with a ceiling, 98 with wall then ceiling on neutral hit is very good. Especially considering that it's a launch followed up immediately into a combo you have no choice but to eat. This is a very good combo-able move for this character, this doesn't suck at all.
236P+K is going to be a guarantee hit after breakable objects because you're unable to do anything for i45 frames at fastest stagger escape. 236P+K is i25 frames.
Momiji is an extremely underrated character by most because people online play so dumb founded with her.
Having 5 i12 strikes in neutral with a safe 7K at i12 and a base of 38 damage is definitely not just a decent character. Momiji is basically a Feilong with how well her buttons allow her to occupy and control strike ranges. She's very solid.
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Pictured Mind
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I can't say I dislike Helena's nerfs. She not only deserves more, but people really put Alpha up on the ban chopping block instead of her. And for what? Because Alpha can crush anything? Because Alpha can repeatedly hump the floor and follow up with unreactable lows more than once? Oh it must be the guaranteed damage she has.
Don't get me wrong, I like all characters in DOA. But Zack is by far my least favorite character for preventing Helena's suicide. And now we have another character that can do BKO. So fuck her as well.
In every thread about buffs/nerfs you're always complaining about how bad your poor little Alpha is and then it's me (or other people) telling you the character is actually pretty good. You do realize that, right?
Anyways I don't see Helena's nerfs as a problem. How often are you gonna hit a 33P on normal anyways? Like said before, 33P was meant to crush. Say you're using her 236PKP string (a safe string), people are either gonna try to throw punish because they don't know it's safe, or they're gonna try to outpoke you. What do you do? You use 33P and win that scenario.
I'm standing by my last statement but would also like to add that there's 2 pages worth of misinformation going on.
I would strongly suggest we all wait until the game is out. At this point, there's really no influencing them since they're doing most of their QA with their internal testers and it's not really worth the time discussing properties of a press built of a game.
edit: see, I can be a nice guy.
I would strongly suggest we all wait until the game is out. At this point, there's really no influencing them since they're doing most of their QA with their internal testers and it's not really worth the time discussing properties of a press built of a game.
edit: see, I can be a nice guy.
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I agree with a lot of what you say about Momiji overall... but I still think that Mozuna first off the input should grant more damage alone, it's decent in certain situations, but second, she clearly has strings that do a lot more damage.