If this was KOF, my team would consist of Hitomi, Leon and Bass.
Hitomi's really solid now.
Hitomi's really solid now.
Dead or Alive 5 Alpha Demo System and Character Discussions
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x Sypher x
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His parry from Ninpo. Pressingin Ninpo parries all high and mid attacks. He teleports behind the opponent, but I don't think he gets anything out of it. It works well after
His
WTF? He has a parry now? Lol wow that's just...wow. I mean I guess it's not TOO bad since his Ninpo stance used to be practically useless before, but dam lol.
Gill Hustle
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That's a dam shame, just about everyone has one except for her.
She's pretty beastly as is ATM.
Don't know if it's been posted as well but she can transition to back flips along with BT.
Still hoping for more goodies though . . .
x Sypher x
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Yeah I thought that was pretty neat when they added BT transitions in DOAD, but now BACKFLIPS? All I can say is, fucking...GENIUUUUUUS.
Jefffcore
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His parry from Ninpo. Pressing
His
Didn't try SEing though
x Sypher x
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when you break grabs in cliff hangers you take 10pts of damage i believe.
MASTER
That's dumb
DrDogg
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Why can't you counter for the first 23 frames?
Berzerk!
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Just going back to holds for a second. Unconfirmed frames for DOA5:
Defensive Holds
- Unconfirmed: Any hold performed out of critical state is 0(18)17.
- Unconfirmed: Any normal hold performed out of critical state 0(18)17.
- Unconfirmed: Any advanced hold performed out of critical state is 0(22)8.
-Because the game doesn't allow you to. There are a lot of situations in the demo where I found myself not being able to hold out of the stun. This is very much akin to what happened in doa3.1.
DrDogg
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And only Hayabusa has this type of stun at the moment?
For DOAD it was 0/20/10 out of stun, in stun it was 0/20/15
For DOA4 it was 0/22/8 in and out of stun.
@Dr.Dogg there was moves like these in the past in DOA4 in fact that same move in DOA4 gave +6 because you could not hold at all until 6 frames past after hayabusa's recovery. In this one however it was beefed up. Like VP said the game just doesnt let you and i believe that trying to SE and hold it is probably impossible now because slow escaping usually only cuts the stun by half and the fastest move he can do after he recovers is 18 frames which goes into ninpo and thats very close to half of the stun frames.
Its interesting but i personally feel like im playing another fighter when i hit with that and do a juggle. Then again though its the only good move that grants him really good damage into the air throw since he is a much slower character now. You can easily step the move too and its 27 frames.
EDIT: I havent found anyone else that has a stun like this right now, can anyone else confirm?
MASTER
@ DrDogg Not at all. Playing the demo I find I cannot hold out a lot of strings, Its just a matter of figuring out which moves cause the unholdable situation and why.
@Master. You can slowescape out of it....That is the only way out. From like -35, I Slowed escaped down to -16. I'm not sure this is the most it will go down because I was doing both the attacking and the defending(using two controllers).
@Master. You can slowescape out of it....That is the only way out. From like -35, I Slowed escaped down to -16. I'm not sure this is the most it will go down because I was doing both the attacking and the defending(using two controllers).
Raansu
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She does it's
Ya I'm noticing they moved alot of her old inputs to
The limbo stun is just one of the stuns. However, there seem to be situations where attacks are guaranteed on NH,CH and HCH. The demo testing is still in its infancy. We will find all of them.
DOA4
High or Mid Hold - 0/22/8
Low Hold - 0/22/5
Parries - 0/22/8
DOAD - Outside of Stun
High or Mid Hold - 0/20/10
Low Hold - 0/20/7
All Parries - 0/20/10
DOAD - Inside of Stun
All Holds - 0/20/15
DOAD Source
DOA4 Source
Berzerk!
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Thanks Master and Grap3. So our full list of comparisons in order:
So, based on the fact that the difference between DOA4 and DOAD was subtle but noticable (more punishable holds), the change in DOA5 is on paper a sharp refinement.
This further shortening of the active window by four frames compared to DOA4 will make accidentally hitting into a hold initiated early/randomly will be less likely, and the recovery has almost doubled. Very positive.
I'm surprised Advanced holds are more lenient - there's a small amount of additional input and a little more planning required to initiate but I don't think that's a big problem for most players.
Still, it's only two heights and brings it back to DOA4 levels in terms of recovery which will mean you probably still have to just block after a whiffed counter. The input and mid restriction should stop it being spammed.
So, based on the fact that the difference between DOA4 and DOAD was subtle but noticable (more punishable holds), the change in DOA5 is on paper a sharp refinement.
This further shortening of the active window by four frames compared to DOA4 will make accidentally hitting into a hold initiated early/randomly will be less likely, and the recovery has almost doubled. Very positive.
I'm surprised Advanced holds are more lenient - there's a small amount of additional input and a little more planning required to initiate but I don't think that's a big problem for most players.
Still, it's only two heights and brings it back to DOA4 levels in terms of recovery which will mean you probably still have to just block after a whiffed counter. The input and mid restriction should stop it being spammed.