The Art Style and Graphics Discussion

KasumiLover

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Lilis character design isn't for everyone, and I mean pretty much all fighting game characters are a walking trope. XD Lili definetly adds diversity since her style and presentation is one of the most unique in tekken, she uses dance and ballet to fight and appearance is iconic. Also all those girls you used as examples except for Karin are hideous XD I like lili because she represents freedom and rebellion which is why I miss her old third costume in T6, it's one of the most beautiful costumes I've seen in any fighting game, especially the long lace veil and chains, I still feel like to this day it should've been her default post T6
 

Tyaren

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Lilis character design isn't for everyone, and I mean pretty much all fighting game characters are a walking trope. XD Lili definetly adds diversity since her style and presentation is one of the most unique in tekken, she uses dance and ballet to fight and appearance is iconic. Also all those girls you used as examples except for Karin are hideous XD I like lili because she represents freedom and rebellion...

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...which is why I miss her old third costume in T6, it's one of the most beautiful costumes I've seen in any fighting game, especially the long lace veil and chains, I still feel like to this day it should've been her default post T6

You mean this..."beauty"?

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KasumiLover

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You mean this..."beauty"?

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Yeah, except it's not extracted and looks much better in game with all the shaders and physics in effect and isn't just an extract on deviantart XD and I can see your difference in opinion, but she still is one of the most popular characters in the game and she's relatively a recent addition which I think says alot.

Also I'm blown since apparently Street Fighter 5 isn't here today...
 

Tyaren

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Also I'm blown since apparently Street Fighter 5 isn't here today...

You are by the way aware of the many gigs of data that you will have to download when it arrives? The game released half finished after all and was patch updated like a hundred times. But I guess you now have an Internet flat and you can download as much as you want?
 

KasumiLover

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You are by the way aware of the many gigs of data that you will have to download when it arrives? The game released half finished after all and was patch updated like a hundred times. But I guess you now have an Internet flat and you can download as much as you want?
No but I do have xfinity wifi which gives a free trial hour long access per email address used so I'll be able to download the patches and gigs within that time and I'll just use my own 4G for the remainder if it stops midway, so I'm prepared which makes me happy. And my mom has her wifi from her phone so I can ask for her passcode if I need to
 

Tyaren

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Before the inevitable happens and we will be flooded by SFV goodness, let's again take a look at a game that was actually barely mentioned in here (only by myself a couple of times), but which imo was absolutely beautiful and true piece of art, The Last Guardian:

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The massive, beautifully lit environments and of course Trico, who in 15-20 hours not once fails to act like a real, living creature, are imo one of the PS4's greatest technical achievements.
 

Jadeinchains

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It looks great! Also It's not long to go lol. Soon the great Kasumi flood of SFV pictures will arrive. :p
Trico looks adorable. It's little demon horns and giant ears lol. XD
 

KasumiLover

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I may or may not post Ed right away since I have to see how getting DLC characters work, if I can get him with in game money I should be able to also buy juri or kolin although I personally would prefer Juri
 

Jadeinchains

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Lol I recently got a new cat and I feel that way towards of getting angry with but then 5 seconds later loving again so I can imagine how I'd feel towards Trico. :p I love how it's actually like those eyes that glow when the light hits them.
 

Jadeinchains

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I have a black cat so a lot of times when it's dark this is all I see looking at me from the shadows lol, really nice realistic touch

Lol I was gonna say the same thing, She's completely black so when she was hiding earlier and I was looking for her I looked under the bed and just saw her looking back at me from in the dark cause her eye's were reflecting the light! :D

And that looks cute in that image Tyaren lol.
 

Brute

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The Last Guardian is actually quite ugly, IMO. It hurts my eyes to look at. I think it has something to do with the way the lighting is set-up. Everything is too washed and shiny, much like Ubisoft games.
 

Jadeinchains

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I kinda thought that too, it's not bad but it's not exactly easy on the eyes either. The face for that one guy looks washed out and I had to click on the pic to make out his eyes and mouth more clearly

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Says the fan of Tekken 7's visuals. No tea no shade no pink lemonade.

I don't know I find it looks really cute with the giant what ever Trico is. It has like a dark atmosphere like SOTC with it being very dark colours.
 

Tyaren

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The Last Guardian is actually quite ugly, IMO. It hurts my eyes to look at. I think it has something to do with the way the lighting is set-up. Everything is too washed and shiny, much like Ubisoft games.

Can't generally agree. :/
By too shiny do you mean the heavy use of bloom lighting? With that I do agree, it is taxing on the eyes:

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I think it is there for one, because they wanted to have a great contrast of the dark, gloomy and cold depths of the labyrinth to the sun-drenched, warm outside, that you occasionally step out into and which is where you eventually want to escape to.
Secondly, I think Fumito Ueda, the games director and designer, can generally not have enough bloom. It's also heavily used in Shadow of the Colossus. That effect was really in on early PS3 and Xbox360 games. The Last Guardian is kind of a PS3 game that missed the train, lol.

I kinda thought that too, it's not bad but it's not exactly easy on the eyes either. The face for that one guy looks washed out and I had to click on the pic to make out his eyes and mouth more clearly

I knew you would want to jump on that wagon immediately. Funny thing is though, that your favorite Nier Automata has a very similar look and use of lighting actually:

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And don't get me started on how blurry and unrecognizable Tekken 7 is on PS4.
 
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Jadeinchains

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Do you own the game? XD and I can see the faces clearer in tekken 7
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The environments in the game still look good tho, it seems they sacrifice character model detail for the environments from what I see

Get out of here Khia lol! XD And the character looks like that because they seemed to be going for a difference between Trico's realistic looks ( I mean in how detailed he is ) versus the human character being more cel shaded.
 

Brute

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Can't generally agree. :/
By too shiny do you mean the heavy use of bloom lighting?
Yes, but it's a particular type of bloom abuse.

I think it is there for one, because they wanted to have a great contrast of the dark, gloomy and cold depths of the labyrinth to the sun-drenched, warm outside, that you occasionally step out into and which is where you eventually want to escape to.
The "dark" areas are still so bright they look like full-brighted mid-range gray textures only to "contrast" with the same shit plus absurd levels of bloom. They're "contrasting" "bright" with "even brighter." It's dumb.

Secondly, I think Fumito Ueda, the games director and designer, can generally not have enough bloom. It's also heavily used in Shadow of the Colossus. That effect was really in on early PS3 and Xbox360 games. The Last Guardian is kind of a PS3 game that missed the train, lol.
There are a few directors/devs that have an obnoxious bloom fetish. The Fable games were always terrible with it, Ubisoft is generally pretty terrible, Bandai Namco (SC/Tekken) have a different kind of bloom-abuse (that's also terrible), and some others. All are hideous without exception.

I knew you would want to jump on that wagon immediately. Funny thing is though, that your favorite Nier Automata has a very similar look and use of lighting actually:
Which is one of the principle reasons I said that it looks like ass.
 
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