SilverForte
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The steam version sounds like the best then.
Cant beat ff6 on the go though. Still a good version.
Cant beat ff6 on the go though. Still a good version.
Lightning has always been an expy of what Nomura thinks Cloud is, as you implied. But certainly she lacks the subleties of Cloud and his character development. A character development akin to a spiral going downwards until it hits rock bottom, and then at least tries to get back up.Lightning, Caius and Oerba Yun Fang are really the only characters I like and even then Lightning is only cool in XIII shes practices non existent without paid DLC in XIII-2 and in LR they made some excuse of removing her emotions for plot reasons and she basically just becomes Cloud even more.
I'd love to know in detail what's unengaging about Cloud's delusions and lies. Few games have done this, especially JRPGs. Or what's unengaging about Aeris' humor and wit. Or Barret's growth as somebody who thought he was always right only to admit that he, too, failed.VIIs characters arent exactly engaging either,
Cloud is non caring? He always tried to care even when everything went to shit. He can be a puppet to Sephiroth and Jenova, how do you expect him to trust himself?Cloud is this non caring OP experiment that is still basically the same even after being saved from Mako poisoning by Tifa and somehow gets worse,
Aeris does not develop much but she is still an impressive character, simply because she knows she has a lot on her shoulders and yet does not tell the others to not worry anyone.Aerith doesnt even get a chance to develop enough to care about her death,
At this point any character, any story, anything can be described poorly as this and made sound like it's the lamest thing ever.Sephiroth has a mental breakdown and becomes an obsessive mamas boy,
Vincent shows Hojo's usual work with his story. You can play the story without him but he adds a lot of interesting side information, on Sephiroth and on Hojo, things that feel gratifying as a player who wants to know more.Vincent is an angsty teen vampire set on revenge,
Yuffie could be cut from the game and nothing of value to the main story would be lost. She is comic relief but even Cait Sith holds more importance than her.Yuffie is semi likable due to her shenanigans and I really liked her post Aerith death scene,
Uhh... So basically you did not give any importance to Barret's character arc from the start of the game to the end game.Barret has some deep regrets but outside of the one boss battle and scene where he relives the traumatic moment hes just a Mr T stereotype...
So basically a guy we know very few of, a cute looking comic relief and a bombshell who is everyone's ideal woman... Somebody who cares about you unconditionally and goes inside the lifestream itself to save you.I could go on but I'd be here all day, needless to say my favourite VII characters were Zack, Yuffie and Tifa.
I have no nostalgic delusions. I first played it in 2014 because I wanted to try this highly controversial game.I just don't have this nostalgic delusion of VII/VIII being godlike standard of FF games, VII is mediocre at best with way too many sequelsand gets milked to hell and back.
Then he is the best Crisis Core character. In FFVII, he is beyond underdeveloped, they clearly wanted to do more with him but couldn't.Zack for best FFVII character. Just go play Crisis Core and you can agree too.
I played it in 2013 I think, idk what it was but after finally beating it I couldn't help but feel underwhelmed.It's the game that convinced me to try a game for myself before really judging it, because before I listened to FFVI fanboys who hate it and Xenogears fanboys who loathe it. I saw too many people put it down JUST BECAUSE it was popular, JUST BECAUSE everyone loved Cloud, and I still see them to this day.
I much prefer other JRPGs and other games from Square, but it's far from being mediocre, imo.
Yes, it came out at the right place and at the right time, but even if, say, it was FFVI who made JRPGs popular and dandy, VII would still be highly regarded by core fans.
I will never understand what he sees in that....that thing. Gentiana>Cindy, I didn't say Luna since Noctis is already shipped with her. Gladio can knock himself out with her tho, Mr. and Mrs. Fanservice and all.
YOU leave Gentiana-chan and Cindy-chan alone before me and Gruntie start dropping Crytara diss posts lolI will never understand what he sees in that....that thing. Gentiana>Cindy, I didn't say Luna since Noctis is already shipped with her. Gladio can knock himself out with her tho, Mr. and Mrs. Fanservice and all.
What's wrong with Tifa?
YOU leave Gentiana-chan and Cindy-chan alone before me and Gruntie start dropping Crytara diss posts lol
Why am I convinced that those are just blow-up dolls? lollol, calm down. XD
Here, for you:
You got that right XD cheap piece of work, I don't do jezebelsShe looks like she's working the corner there, doesn't she? XD
Who are you again?? XD And Grunt knows better than to mess with me, he may be tsundere but I'm axe crazy Plus he can't say anything, my Naotora would CRUSH his poor LOW TIER Ein, your bad at long range Helena can also get a taste if we're being real here. #Clapback ☆Naotora>Helena>Ein☆What's wrong with Tifa?
YOU leave Gentiana-chan and Cindy-chan alone before me and Gruntie start dropping Crytara diss posts lol
lol, calm down. XD
Here, for you:
You got that right XD cheap piece of work, I don't do jezebels
Who are you again?? XD And Grunt knows better than to mess with me, he may be tsundere but I'm axe crazy Plus he can't say anything, my Naotora would CRUSH his poor LOW TIER Ein, your bad at long range Helena can also get a taste if we're being real here. #Clapback ☆Naotora>Helena>Ein☆
Oh I didn't really mean it XD they insult my girls I insult theirs XD
"SOOOOOOOOORRRRRRYYYYY! SORRY! SORRY! SORRY!"Oh I didn't really mean it XD they insult my girls I insult theirs XD
I like her apologies >.>The sooner they launch dat Lighting DLC for FFXV, the sooner me and @UpSideDownGRUNT start cheating lol
"SOOOOOOOOORRRRRRYYYYY! SORRY! SORRY! SORRY!"