Official Dead or Alive Xtreme Thread
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Definitely, their proportions are giving early Illusion Soft games with the anime proportions. They need to add some more meat to the arms and maybe slightly reduce the necks since in DOA6 they were perfect, not too long but notably more refined than LR.
Hopefully they do like a poll or survey where we can give some criticism since I'd tell them about the strange proportions, lack of emotion at the current time, and maybe the lack of cohesion with the models in their promo art, in game, and during certain specific scenes since they all could pass as separate character versions since Tamaki I noticed is beautiful, but she looks fairly different in the three instances I've seen her in her trailer and promo art. DOA5-6 don't have that issue and neither does Venus Vacation
I'm also hoping that they get their tummies completely on track regardless of definition. With DOA5 everything seemed perfect to me with proportions. DOA6 nailed a lot of angles smoothly, but there was some neck twisting, the bellybuttons weren't fixed proper until DOAXVV, and the arm issue was still kind of present, but with a different problem. If a character; especially a female that had their arms in a bicep flex position, there was an underlying skin problem that connected the arm to the shoulder.
This arm issue is a dilemma that KT has been struggling with for a few years in multiple games, and it actually looks like they are fixing it with Prism, but now we have to make sure as you said that there is some meat on their arms for even proportion.
That part. I also hope the body models will be more unique since I like how all the girls in VV for the most part have different proportions.
I can see Tamaki still retaining that more rounded lean figure she has, Honoka having her more top heavy one, and Nanami having her more modest one and so on. I hope Yukino returns since I love her figure most out of the VV girls since she's busty, decently lean with some thickness, and i like how she's about average height at 5"5, I prefer 5"0 to 5"3 girls but her stature is refreshing when most of the younger girls and older ones besides Tamaki and Elise are always 5"2 or shorter at best.
Kasumi-Phase-X
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DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation (DOAXVV)
「DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme」女の子たちと仲良くなって、「ヴィーナスフェス」を盛り上げよう！
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DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation (DOAXVV)
「DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme」女の子たちと仲良くなって、「ヴィーナスフェス」を盛り上げよう！
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DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation (DOAXVV)
「DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme」女の子たちと仲良くなって、「ヴィーナスフェス」を盛り上げよう！
doax-venusvacation.jp
DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation (DOAXVV)
「DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme」女の子たちと仲良くなって、「ヴィーナスフェス」を盛り上げよう！
doax-venusvacation.jp
DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation (DOAXVV)
「DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme」女の子たちと仲良くなって、「ヴィーナスフェス」を盛り上げよう！
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DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation (DOAXVV)
「DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme」女の子たちと仲良くなって、「ヴィーナスフェス」を盛り上げよう！
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DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme Venus Vacation (DOAXVV)
「DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme」女の子たちと仲良くなって、「ヴィーナスフェス」を盛り上げよう！
doax-venusvacation.jp
Kasumi-Phase-X
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Happy Halloween
Tonight's special on Venus Island where our fellow Witches along with other Trick-or-Treaters were invited to Mistress Marie's Mansion to explore around her home, have some treats, and do Pumpkin Smashing. The special guests in this event will be Misaki & Honoka greeting the fellow Trick-or-Treaters:
The Tour of Mistress Maire's Mansion:
The Main Event: Pumpkin Smashing (feat. Everyone except Reika, Shizuku, & Meg)
In the late of night, the Owner of Venus Island had a special visitor that was riding a broomstick, and lets just say it was the Owner's Lucky Night:
Mistress Marie
And this is the end of this Halloween Post, sleep well.
Tonight's special on Venus Island where our fellow Witches along with other Trick-or-Treaters were invited to Mistress Marie's Mansion to explore around her home, have some treats, and do Pumpkin Smashing. The special guests in this event will be Misaki & Honoka greeting the fellow Trick-or-Treaters:
The Tour of Mistress Maire's Mansion:
The Main Event: Pumpkin Smashing (feat. Everyone except Reika, Shizuku, & Meg)
In the late of night, the Owner of Venus Island had a special visitor that was riding a broomstick, and lets just say it was the Owner's Lucky Night:
Mistress Marie
And this is the end of this Halloween Post, sleep well.
Yuffie
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6th girl is Nanami. Guess the leak/rumor was true.
Official website has been updated.
Various merchandise is posted.
At the bottom of the official page, looks like those that purchase PS4 version can upgrade free to PS5 version.
Prism will release March 6, 2025!
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Official website has been updated.
Various merchandise is posted.
At the bottom of the official page, looks like those that purchase PS4 version can upgrade free to PS5 version.
Prism will release March 6, 2025!
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@KasumiLover
@deathofaninja
@HHH816
@Jackie Chan Fan
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Hmm.. look like they're previewing how the "gameplay" will be with the usual kind of choice selection you expect from a visual novel. But that screen can't possibly be how it'll look in end, right? lol (but March 6 is only 4 months away...). So this is really just going to be a fully 3D animated visual novel? Maybe now at least you can walk around the island as Mr. Owner... ? Maybe at least get/use/give objects (like bringing the umbrella to Elise)? And is hand-holding the ultimate goal? XD
I've been reading some places that this means Marie will be the first DLC, was that part of the leak? I'm surprised if they don't make her "day 1 DLC". I guess they figured she'd make bigger bucks for them as DLC than as one of the first 6. (EDIT, nevermind... https://nmiagaming.com/venus-vacation-prism-has-no-plans-for-character-dlc/ wow, no DLC, that's a shock coming from KT, but I actually had a feeling that'd be a possibility the way the game was turning out)
Misaki really looks off compared to the others tho still, gotta say. And seeing the 6 of them now, they could have put in Lobelia at least for some body variety, lol...
Seriously though, so many people are going to be asking "This is a DOA game?"
I've been reading some places that this means Marie will be the first DLC, was that part of the leak? I'm surprised if they don't make her "day 1 DLC". I guess they figured she'd make bigger bucks for them as DLC than as one of the first 6. (EDIT, nevermind... https://nmiagaming.com/venus-vacation-prism-has-no-plans-for-character-dlc/ wow, no DLC, that's a shock coming from KT, but I actually had a feeling that'd be a possibility the way the game was turning out)
Misaki really looks off compared to the others tho still, gotta say. And seeing the 6 of them now, they could have put in Lobelia at least for some body variety, lol...
Seriously though, so many people are going to be asking "This is a DOA game?"
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No character DLC huh? Well, this is even worse than DOAX3. It's already bad enough that they cut girls for that game, and now they cut even MORE out?
I've seen visual novels with FAR more characters than that (case in point, the Famicom Detective Club games, also a similar dating sim game involving SNK that aged up Kula Diamond just for her to even be included in the game.).
Well, let's hope they at least unveil Fiona and Elise's nationalities, because I'm getting sick and tired of them not directly stating their nationalities.
Well he did also say...
but I think this one is gonna ruffle some feathers too:
I KNEW IT, lmao. That and the lack of Marie Rose, that's why this is releasing on Sony platforms at all. That and I still wanna bet that they'll add PSVR some time.
It really does seem more and more like a spinoff of a spinoff like I said once before... it's a visual novel based on a ftp gacha vacation game based on a volleyball game series based on a fighting game series.
but I think this one is gonna ruffle some feathers too:
I KNEW IT, lmao. That and the lack of Marie Rose, that's why this is releasing on Sony platforms at all. That and I still wanna bet that they'll add PSVR some time.
It really does seem more and more like a spinoff of a spinoff like I said once before... it's a visual novel based on a ftp gacha vacation game based on a volleyball game series based on a fighting game series.
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Yuffie
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The post says
“If there is a strong demand from fans for these characters and internal agreement within the company, there may be a chance to see their return in future instalments”, he says.
Future installments? Like as in dlc or potential projects like VVP2 or DOAX4?
Also technically DOAX3 vanilla did get dlc characters but they dropped the game so quickly unfortunately.
I hope Prism does well honestly.
As long as it brings a true DOAX game or DOA fighting game.
Edit. Famitsu interview, it's pretty long.
Unfortunately there won't be volleyball.
It literally sounds like they're doing episodes or something.
『DOAXVV』新作恋愛ゲーム『ヴィーナス バケーション プリズム』インタビュー。6人の女の子たちとの“彼女感”と“密着”で魅せるビジュアル表現。すでに次回作も視野に | ゲーム・エンタメ最新情報のファミ通.com
コーエーテクモゲームスより2025年3月6日に発売予定の恋愛アドベンチャー『Venus Vacation PRISM - DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme』（ヴィーナス バケーション プリズム - デッド オア アライブ エクストリーム -。略称は『VPP』）についてインタビュー！
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The game looks promising so far, really like these looks:
I hope that Leifang dress is confirmation that we'll see classic costumes in like their VV standard SSRs and even some of Honoka and Tamaki's attire from DOA6.
Since they're not going to apparently add girls to this Prism game of 6 girls, I think they'll just release maybe different "chapters" or groups of girls in a different group layout so that way their interactions are cohesive. Since the first group has Misaki and Nanami who are friends, and then the other girls, think they'll have groups with different relationships.
I hope for another group if they do another installment around 6 new girls, they'd have ones like:
-Kasumi and Ayane as the sisters of the cast, Nagisa as the tsundere, Shandy as the bored type, Sayuri as the older sister type and then maybe Marie Rose as the token loli type so she stands out most
-For another I'd like Luna and Amy since they have lore with each other, Shizuku as the token fox girl, , and maybe Lisa and Tina since they're friends and they'd stand out since they're OG DOA girls, and then Tsukushi as the introvert.
But I can't really make a solid list of groups since the first one we have already is kinda confusing, besides Nanami and Misaki knowing each other, I see no real chemistry or even knowledge of how the other characters would engage with each other since the episodes in VV don't really scream solid connection to me
I hope that Leifang dress is confirmation that we'll see classic costumes in like their VV standard SSRs and even some of Honoka and Tamaki's attire from DOA6.
I think by installments they could roughly be referring to DLC updates and such since i think they're going to support the game long term, but who knows, they may make additions over time.
Since they're not going to apparently add girls to this Prism game of 6 girls, I think they'll just release maybe different "chapters" or groups of girls in a different group layout so that way their interactions are cohesive. Since the first group has Misaki and Nanami who are friends, and then the other girls, think they'll have groups with different relationships.
I hope for another group if they do another installment around 6 new girls, they'd have ones like:
-Kasumi and Ayane as the sisters of the cast, Nagisa as the tsundere, Shandy as the bored type, Sayuri as the older sister type and then maybe Marie Rose as the token loli type so she stands out most
-For another I'd like Luna and Amy since they have lore with each other, Shizuku as the token fox girl, , and maybe Lisa and Tina since they're friends and they'd stand out since they're OG DOA girls, and then Tsukushi as the introvert.
But I can't really make a solid list of groups since the first one we have already is kinda confusing, besides Nanami and Misaki knowing each other, I see no real chemistry or even knowledge of how the other characters would engage with each other since the episodes in VV don't really scream solid connection to me
Even if it were true that they want to avoid ANY backlash caused by Marie Rose (which doesn't make any sense since it's not even going to be released in the West anyways), did that REALLY require cutting a significant amount of the female cast? Most of the girls don't even LOOK like kids anyways (in fact, besides Marie Rose, pretty much the only girl who does look like a child is Kanna. Lobelia, while flat, is clearly tall enough to be considered a young woman at a glance, as is Nagisa and Shizuku).
I think Leifang and Hitomi have a solid connection to each other, so we need to take that into account. Maybe also Momiji and Rachel since they have worked with Ryu in the past and even had a tag team that indicated they knew each other. Oh, and Helena and Kokoro as well. Probably Christie and NiCO since they have a working relationship per DOA6. Nyotengu and Kanna have a rivalry with each other, so there's that. Oh yeah, and I suggest having Mila be with Lisa and Tina, since the three know each other.
To be fair, though, Elise technically has a connection to the Owner (since she was his predecessor according to the lore).
I'd mention Lobelia and Fiona, also Yukino and Tamaki, since they have confirmed connections to each other, but they aren't sharing screentime with each other.
People recycling what I said weeks ago like it’s Bible now… COMMENCE!
Some of you should have learned by now that I’m never wrong and it’s in your best interest to trust daddy DOAN because he knows what he’s fucking talking about.
I suppose there are a few things I could quickly say, but I’ll hold off the meat and potatoes for now and let people continue to recycle my wise words until they need something new to say.
Congrats Koei Tecmo you have outdone yourself again. Start it off as a MEH DOAX3 type of experience that gets Americans riled up, make some decent money off of physical copies that will sell out in America, release it on Steam later with FTP model and watch the cash dump in like it did once before.
Of course, there is no reason at all not to release this in NA, but the idea of not being able to have it makes us want it that much more. Which is why DOAX and DOAX2 sold like complete shit and DOAX3 sells out to this day and why DOAXVV makes more money than any of their other games or franchises.
Congratulations once more Koei Tecmo. You have finally figured it out. Will I keep begging for a USA release? Damn right, but I see what you are doing.
Some of you should have learned by now that I’m never wrong and it’s in your best interest to trust daddy DOAN because he knows what he’s fucking talking about.
I suppose there are a few things I could quickly say, but I’ll hold off the meat and potatoes for now and let people continue to recycle my wise words until they need something new to say.
Congrats Koei Tecmo you have outdone yourself again. Start it off as a MEH DOAX3 type of experience that gets Americans riled up, make some decent money off of physical copies that will sell out in America, release it on Steam later with FTP model and watch the cash dump in like it did once before.
Of course, there is no reason at all not to release this in NA, but the idea of not being able to have it makes us want it that much more. Which is why DOAX and DOAX2 sold like complete shit and DOAX3 sells out to this day and why DOAXVV makes more money than any of their other games or franchises.
Congratulations once more Koei Tecmo. You have finally figured it out. Will I keep begging for a USA release? Damn right, but I see what you are doing.
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Edit. Famitsu interview, it's pretty long.
Unfortunately there won't be volleyball.
It literally sounds like they're doing episodes or something.
『DOAXVV』新作恋愛ゲーム『ヴィーナス バケーション プリズム』インタビュー。6人の女の子たちとの“彼女感”と“密着”で魅せるビジュアル表現。すでに次回作も視野に | ゲーム・エンタメ最新情報のファミ通.com
コーエーテクモゲームスより2025年3月6日に発売予定の恋愛アドベンチャー『Venus Vacation PRISM - DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme』（ヴィーナス バケーション プリズム - デッド オア アライブ エクストリーム -。略称は『VPP』）についてインタビュー！
Damn that was long but it answered so much, lol. Amazing that this is where the passion behind DOA at KT lies now... they could make any new DOA game from scratch, but what Sakuda wanted to make more than anything was a game for non-gacha fans to experience some of the new OC girls of Venus Vacation... (can't believe this guy started on DOA3 of all games, lol). Does he realize it'd be easier to just release an offline & complete version of VV to accomplish that? Everyone who hoped that the success of VV games would help fund a new real DOA have been totally wrong, Prism is what the success of VV has lead to. I have to be honest that I don't think this game will do very well... a big part of VV's success is that it follows the typical successful ftp gacha formula of gambling for sexy things (another reason was because it had girls like Marie Rose, tho I wonder if she'd still top a new popularity poll). But hey, I could be wrong, it should be interesting to see how many of the supposed millions of VV fans will cross over from the gacha side or how many new people will buy in.
If Sakuda is the only one making decisions now on the DOA series and the future of the series (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong... I guess hopefully KT greenlights a new fighting game with a whole different team and lead), I fear for the series as a fighting game. I wish the Famitsu interviewer had even asked one question about the future of the fighting games. He only ever brought up DOA5 when talking about how old the engine used in VV is.
@otnesse I'm not saying that's why the majority of the girls were "cut" for Prism. Tbh, I think the reason why they went with 6 is made totally clear now from that Famitsu interview that Prism is really more like yet another spinoff, it's a fully 3D story-focused visual novel based on Venus Vacation made from scratch, so they had to be selective because there's a lot more work going into implementing each girl than in VV (making their model, more voice work, more animation, etc).
As for Sony, I said what I said with consideration of what happened with DOAX3 Scarlet, which was also not released in the west. Sony's new (well, since around 2017) policies are inconsistent and don't make sense, but are often connected with toning down things in general, even for non-western releases. I'm not saying Prism will be toned down because of Sony, but designing the game as being more focused on "romance" over sexuality and avoiding more younger looking characters probably made it easier to get approved for release by Sony for PS4/PS5.
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If DOA players were as passionate about making content for DOA fighting games as they were about bitching about Koei Tecmo, we'd have strategy guides to the fucking moon.
Koei Tecmo is a business, and their passion lies with making money; and guess what is making money? DOAXVV. The reason I am not going more in depth and gave you such a basic response is because the answers to your quandary will be represented in my next business news post.
This game is going to make a ton of fucking money. Also keep in mind that these types of games will help fund games with bigger budgets. They haven't seemingly stopped at Koei Tecmo if you studied the business inside out. DWO is the most advanced game to come out of Koei Tecmo and Atelier Yumia is the highest budget Atelier has ever conceived. Gacha is doing Koei Tecmo a lot of good and it will trickle into more games as time moves on.
To think that some players won't even give Team NINJA the time of day to announce a new game is just wrong. Look at how long they gave Rockstar to announce GTAVI. It's not fair how Koei Tecmo is treated.
Well I guess the days of rockstars and ninjas are truly gone then, corporations have taken over and profit is god now. I mean, that's no revelation as it's been that way for a long time, but there was hope they'd use some of those profits to greenlight passion projects, but Prism is the passion project now. It's been years since KT got any money from me, at least, and it looks like they won't be for a long time to come.
I am afraid that is part of the problem, my friend. The DOAXVV players and the DOA6 casuals that just wanted those season passes had no problem putting up their money.
Koei Tecmo is not giving up on big budget titles; do not let yourself believe that. Gacha games are building them fortifications that allow them to take risks because they make money and Team NINJA has done a good job at refining them.
You can't take a risk on DOA7 if there is no money to begin with. DOAXVV gives DOA7 more of a chance to breathe life than anything else. There must be a compromise between the player and the company or DOA7 will NEVER happen.
If it wasn't for gacha Koei Tecmo would be in a world of trouble right now.
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