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Allan Paris you are incorrect. 4f+k was his best poke. 4f+k in doa4 was a -5 frame move. unsafe? You have much to learn. If you try to hit me I can back dash away from your attack. If you try to grab I can hit you out of the grab. I don't see where this move is unsafe and if I hit you you...

That is the way that you guys thought you should play him. In the history of DOA the stun has never been the most consistent way to get damage. Also just being able to sit down stun someone into a free launcher doesn't change anything besides adding just a little more damage from a safer poke. I...

No I know what he has in the final build and hes good in the alpha build too. He plays the same I just know what properties have changed for him.

Hayate is good. You can think hes bad all you want. But don't listen to me its not like I win tournaments or anything.

he still has 66p2k also 1kp wasn't good. 1kk was ok but not really even good. What do you expect? I don't understand it its like in DOA characters are expected to play 100% totally different but its ok for Ryu and Ken to play the exact same for 20 years.

Can't wait for you guys to see how its done with Hayate/JannLee/GenFu

U'm 6p+k, p+k option tracks and it hits mid so you cant crouch or sidestep. So when you got them wanting to block that is where the grab and the high punch come into play and the high punch guard breaks. I don't know why you are saying its useless because it doesnt guarantee him an attack. Frame...

I like his new wind dash over his old one.

Enjoy!

http://xperfectlegendx.blogspot.com/2012/08/pre-release-doa5-thoughts.html

I hope we play so I can beat you with all dragon kicks.

Thanks Doc. So far what are hayate's unholdable stuns?

Well obviously they don't have unholdable stuns in the Alpha build however based on the information available you can look at which moves and tell which characters attacks have unholdable properties cause of sit down stuns and etc. So far I have found (if they don't change or add anything...

I will be in attendance! Come meet greet and play!

I'm midwest not east coast. Pretty sure Master is south

I have the game in my possession finally however I am looking for a very cheap price for the 3ds for I refuse to pay 250 for this thing I rather buy a new PS3. Anyway once I can get this for cheap I will be posting all character changes frame data etc. Obsolete strats and better strats for chars...

I would like to play DOA:D but I tried it when grap3fruitman brought it to UFGT and the game feels totally unplayable because of the Dpad and the analog is no better. I was appalled by how small the dpad was. Unless there is a way for me to use a converter for a different kind of pad it will be...