I was trying to simply state some observations in a pithy fashion, but Xhominid, you seem really intent on trying to make something out of it all, so I guess I'll put in the laborious work and address you plainly.
I never said you couldn't Brute, don't put words in my mouth...
This is the second time you've made this argument, that I "put words in your mouth." Only I don't. I use figurative hyperbole to illustrate why I don't find a particular line of reasoning to be compelling or persuasive. In that case, my point was that subjectivity is a constant in matters such as these so it's not a valid excuse to justify any form of criticism. As such, it's an irrelevant point. You can defend the subjective merit of things, but if that defense doesn't involve any compelling points, doubling down on "it's subjective; everyone can have their own opinion" essentially translates into "You're allowed to keep positing your point of view, just like everyone else," which I do. But then you continue to hammer in this subjectivity point, as if I haven't already acknowledged it. To be perfectly clear: I get it. I just don't care.
You can criticize DOA6 till the cows come home, I have my reasons for liking and you have yours for why you have issues.
So I have no clue where you are coming from as if I'm stopping you from criticizing the characterization or anything else.
If you try and criticize ME for liking the characterization for DOA6, on the other hand, then expect for me to criticize YOU for you hating the criticizing the characterization for DOA6.
But I'm not "hating the criticizing the characterization." Quite the opposite.
You're not stopping me from doing anything. You are continually addressing a bunch of flimsy nonsense, however, so I am going to criticize that.
As for whether I'm criticizing YOU or your positions, it's the latter. But if you say "It's delusional to think that the Earth is flat," you can bet that flat-earthers will take it personally, anyway.
I'm not really sure you should be using that as the crux of your argument
That is in no way the crux of my argument. It's just a tiny little anecdote dressed in ironic humor.
so many damn fighting games have no idea how to establish pecking order in the slightest(Mortal Kombat is so fucking guilty of this that it's honestly amazing anyone who tries with that game doesn't immediately kill themselves out of sheer madness).
I find I have to repeat this a lot: "Other things sucking worse is not an excuse to suck."
I usually present it more fancifully, but I think you get the point.
If you're about to suggest that it does in some cases: just don't. I've been down that road and I'm not going to budge on that point.
Dead or Alive is just one of many that outside of Ryu and to a lesser extent Kasumi, damn near every character can win or lose fights with no real reason or logic behind it(which could be easily solved by showing how or why most of the time like was Diego conflicted or holding back? Was Ayane blindsided by the revelation to be able to defend herself against NiCO when Helena was still able to stay conscious? etc.)
Exactly. People can win or lose with no real reason behind it. Kinda sounds like shitty writing, doesn't it?
So this shitty writing is allegedly the reason that Leon can't come back. But, by it's own asinine logic, Leon can easily be worked back in with the same degree of lazy-ass writing they've committed to for a lot of the characters who did make it. But arbitrarily, he's not here.
It's almost as if their excuse is illegitimate.
But, then we have this:
"I believe that DOA6 does good enough that it could hide behind it and not have any real issues. "
You admit that in a character's arc that is solely focused on the strength of the characters that "damn near every character can win or lose fights with no real reason or logic behind it." You can have a decent story with inconsistent fight results, but not if that story is focused solely on fighting strength (as Jann's is). As a result: Jann's story is shit. It was written by someone who has an incredibly terrible understanding of writing, or someone so lazy that they simply didn't give a shit. Those are the two options. And yet, allegedly, that quality of writing is what prohibited Leon. And that is fucking stupid.
INB4: "That's subjective."
Well it's my subjective opinion that these people can't even operate in accordance to the stupid rules they set for themselves, and so I'm going to mock them for it. It's also my subjective opinion that this story is objectively stupid.
