The Spine
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You're making too many assumptions about me as a player.
DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread
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*Main Character: Naotora Ii*
I see that you have a thing for garbage Mr. Spine. But c'mon though, she's decent quality garbage at least.
The Spine
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SilverForte
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Mai is very solid, but she's still fairly new so can't place her yet.
TRI Mike
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Why exactly do you think DOA is matchup based¿ I've always thought the contrary because every character can do so many things (80+ moves each including holds, throws, many strikes, launchers, etc) that allow them to easily adapt to pretty much any situation. DOA doesn't have situations like 2D fighters where your grappler is pretty much fucked against a ranger because he can't get close. For example, Bass or Leon can destroy a faster character because they, like everyone, have 0-frame holds that can be activated with successful reads and their holds are (usually) stronger than everyone else's. Please explain if I'm wrong.
Rikuto
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You can have 80+ moves but if none of them have a better range/speed/recovery ratio than your opponent, the matchup is going to be a unique situation for you.
It only requires one move to have superiority over you at neutral to decide the flow of the match. Everything after that is a consequence of it. The character that decides the first move holds great power. When he can't do anything substantial afterwards because of a weak stun game vs a character with a strong hold game, thats when the script gets flipped. And that happens quite often.
It only requires one move to have superiority over you at neutral to decide the flow of the match. Everything after that is a consequence of it. The character that decides the first move holds great power. When he can't do anything substantial afterwards because of a weak stun game vs a character with a strong hold game, thats when the script gets flipped. And that happens quite often.
The above stated is an example of why it's so difficult to produce conclusive tier lists for DOA5LR, though player skill level and reads don't factor into the equation unless the character has a specific risk/reward based off of a correct read or potential punishment for an incorrect read. For instance a character like Ayane has a very versatile moveset with a lot of potent tools, however she can be punished hard for any mistakes made, essentially affecting her overall risk/reward in a given match. Compare this with someone like Mila, Rachel or Christie whom generally don't get punished as hard for any relative mistakes made.
Though for the instances of a physical tier list, the basis is generally tools vs. tools for any given character. Execution also doesn't come into play or else a character like Akira or Phase-4 would be low tier.
Though for the instances of a physical tier list, the basis is generally tools vs. tools for any given character. Execution also doesn't come into play or else a character like Akira or Phase-4 would be low tier.
synce
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Can't really have a tier list without matchups. Rikuto makes a good point about the first hit being important. That's especially true in DOA where everything after that first hit is a complete guessing game. Fast, string heavy characters will always dominate this series unless the stun system gets revamped.
Noontide
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Is there a more recent Japanese tier list? Everyone's seen the one from 2014, but the game's been updated a few times since then, two new characters (Mai and Naotora Ii) have been added and people have had a chance to play and learn more...
I heard Hayate got a series of nerfs so I would be surprised if he's still considered top 3. That alone would be a significant change.
SilverForte
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Doing some thinking I'd probably put top 5 as Christie,Akira,Leifang, Ayane, and Gen fu, no particular order. Hard to say about the rest of the cast but I'd probably put Ein and Raidou as bottom two.
