Official Dead or Alive Xtreme Thread

Jotamide · Oct 14, 2024

At first I hated Luna but then I realized she's supposed to be a bit of a comic relief character. Unfortunately, VV doesn't have writing good enough to convey that.

KasumiLover · Oct 14, 2024

Jotamide said:
At first I hated Luna but then I realized she's supposed to be a bit of a comic relief character. Unfortunately, VV doesn't have writing good enough to convey that.
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I like her but she's not a top 5 for me, so far that's relegated to Yukino, Shandy, Elise, Tamaki and Reika.

And speaking of... I must have been lucky because I acquired several girls today xD I got Kanna, Amy, and Tina from the racing gacha. I also got Yukinos racer too so I can continue grinding for her venus memory since their suits are trending atm. If I can get Leifang I'd be so happy since the only girls I'd not have would be Patty, Koharu, Shizuku, Tsukushi, and any other girl i don't remember if they're forgettable besides Koharu and Leifang.

otnesse · Oct 14, 2024

Eh, I actually found Luna's antics somewhat funny, a bit like Seymour Skinner regarding Who's On First.

Either way, I still would have wanted her in even if I didn't like her because I really want to find out the nationalities of all non-Japanese characters (ie, Luna, Fiona, Monica, Patty, Lobelia, Elise, Amy, Shandy, Meg).

Yuffie · Oct 14, 2024

Guessing it was these? @KasumiLover

KasumiLover · Oct 14, 2024

Yuffie said:
Guessing it was these? @KasumiLover

Yep! XD i love this fest especially since idk what it is but the gacha for trendy outfits seems alot more generous this time, I'm at step 6/8 and used mainly trendy tickets and the usual bulk of stones you get from doing the D to S rank festival matches and I acquired pretty much every other girl I wanted, even Leifang just now too xD

I finally got Yukino to level 51 so I think I'm gonna just focus on getting the newer girls to about level 40 before I go back to Yukino and Shandy

deathofaninja · Oct 15, 2024

Jotamide said:
At first I hated Luna but then I realized she's supposed to be a bit of a comic relief character. Unfortunately, VV doesn't have writing good enough to convey that.
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Damn, those graphics look kind of like the Switch!

Anyway, I get sooooooooo tired of the "bad writing" comments, not just for DOA but for other excellent pieces of entertainment. I think the dates and stories do exactly what is intended for them to do. Turn you on a little bit while giving you some insight on the character and their feelings. This isn't Metal Gear fucking Solid or Death fucking Stranding. It's a lighthearted, relaxing game on the beach.

If you want strong narrative go read a Song of Ice and Fire or Lord of the Rings.

inochinagi · Oct 15, 2024

Writing and humor might be better in Japanese and it could be just bad translation/localization... because I have noticed that some translations in the game seem pretty damn off, and that's not a new phenomenon for this series in general either, lol. I actually wish I there was an option to turn off the subtitles entirely tbh (during gameplay I mean, not event/story, tho I mostly skip those anyways depending on the characters involved).

But man, kinda pissed that I had 1h left for the last event and had a bunch of rock climbing left to do, but for some reason the update for steam wasn't working for me and kept saying I had an incomplete download of the installation files @_@' I'm hoping I don't have to reinstall the whole game or something.

otnesse · Oct 15, 2024

deathofaninja said:
Damn, those graphics look kind of like the Switch!

Anyway, I get sooooooooo tired of the "bad writing" comments, not just for DOA but for other excellent pieces of entertainment. I think the dates and stories do exactly what is intended for them to do. Turn you on a little bit while giving you some insight on the character and their feelings. This isn't Metal Gear fucking Solid or Death fucking Stranding. It's a lighthearted, relaxing game on the beach.

If you want strong narrative go read a Song of Ice and Fire or Lord of the Rings.

Funny you should mention Metal Gear Solid as a comparison, because some rather bad decisions Kojima made with the story and even characters was actually the reason I got into Dead or Alive. If anything, I'd argue Dead or Alive had better writing than the latest Metal Gear games like Peace Walker or MGSV. Besides, I think a story that has its writer constantly retcon it hints at a weak narrative rather than a truly strong narrative.

KasumiLover · Oct 15, 2024

inochinagi said:
Writing and humor might be better in Japanese and it could be just bad translation/localization... because I have noticed that some translations in the game seem pretty damn off, and that's not a new phenomenon for this series in general either, lol. I actually wish I there was an option to turn off the subtitles entirely tbh (during gameplay I mean, not event/story, tho I mostly skip those anyways depending on the characters involved).

But man, kinda pissed that I had 1h left for the last event and had a bunch of rock climbing left to do, but for some reason the update for steam wasn't working for me and kept saying I had an incomplete download of the installation files @_@' I'm hoping I don't have to reinstall the whole game or something.

You shouldn't have to, I know for me when I try to play after an event ends, it'll say my data is corrupted if the latest update isn't installed which usually loads after I exit out

inochinagi · Oct 15, 2024

KasumiLover said:
You shouldn't have to, I know for me when I try to play after an event ends, it'll say my data is corrupted if the latest update isn't installed which usually loads after I exit out

Hmm, well it's still giving me the "Update Failed" and "Missing downloaded files" after restarting, not sure what else to do.

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edit: nvm, I got it to finally work... had to clear the downloads cache and download the update again

Jotamide · Oct 15, 2024

deathofaninja said:
If you want strong narrative go read a Song of Ice and Fire or Lord of the Rings.

You can have lighthearted games with good writing but Venus Vacation isn't one of them. I'm not arguing this should have some Lord of the Rings world-building but play any other gacha released in the past 2/3 years. Azur Lane, Blue Archive, and Nikke also have tons of fanservice, lighthearted moments, serious moments, and everything in-between and the quality is magnitudes higher. Venus Vacation is a game stuck in 2017.

Either way, there's nothing wrong with liking something flawed. I have hundreds of hours in VV and I still like the rare good episode content and interactions Tamaki has in the game.

deathofaninja · Oct 15, 2024

Jotamide said:
You can have lighthearted games with good writing but Venus Vacation isn't one of them. I'm not arguing this should have some Lord of the Rings world-building but play any other gacha released in the past 2/3 years. Azur Lane, Blue Archive, and Nikke also have tons of fanservice, lighthearted moments, serious moments, and everything in-between and the quality is magnitudes higher. Venus Vacation is a game stuck in 2017.

Either way, there's nothing wrong with liking something flawed. I have hundreds of hours in VV and I still like the rare good episode content and interactions Tamaki has in the game.

My argument is that it isn’t flawed. That it does what it intends to do, and there are hundreds upon hundreds of cut scenes released for the game and they do a good job of highlighting the personality while also enticing people with the costumes.

People are too quick to throw out “bad writing” these days at anything because it’s usually more subjective than a universal complaint. Personally if I thought it was bad I wouldn’t read them at all.

If they weren’t releasing these at a rapid rate, maybe it would be a problem. But consistency plays a role in this.