So you're saying "everyone use Alpha"?
Lets be serious here Alpha-152 needs to be banned.
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Just going to throw this out there, even though I know it's not an applicable thing to do with the move.
Her 11 frame knee from FLOAT? Yeah, it's -20 on guard AND any attack punishment is Hi-counter launch since she's still considered in a jump/float state but not in air.
So, granted, you're not supposed to use that move when an opponent is not in CB or in stun, but it's a high payoff if it is guarded.
Her 11 frame knee from FLOAT? Yeah, it's -20 on guard AND any attack punishment is Hi-counter launch since she's still considered in a jump/float state but not in air.
So, granted, you're not supposed to use that move when an opponent is not in CB or in stun, but it's a high payoff if it is guarded.
hollow
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You're acting like they would take her grabs away lol no, and MORE to her mix up game? She has a new high stun kick and a 3rd knee and a fake out dive HOLY CRAP THEY BOOSTED HER MIX UP GAME THAT MUCH?!?! lol no chill. She's still the same predictable character that people say has harsh mix ups when most her stuff is mids so what I said originally, it's the players fault that they don't know how to fight her.
David Gregg
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If you want her banned? Sure. Or you can just accept DOA as an unbalanced game (not a good or bad thing...it's just the reality) and have tournaments carry on like they always have with the same 3-4 characters normally being used in finals. You've only scratched the surface of a problem that has existed for some time.
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I think I'm done here as well.
To the people that are still salty, have some Oates:
To the people that are still salty, have some Oates:
DR2K
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Why is most of the defense in support of her tournament viability not about the character at all?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Some of you should look this word up and see where it applies to you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Some of you should look this word up and see where it applies to you.
David Gregg
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Alright if it's logic you want:
What you're trying to say:
Balanced characters are playable in the tournament.
Alpha-152 is not a balanced character.
∴ Alpha is not playable in the tournament.
^The argument? It could work but Alpha-152 isn't the only character in the game who isn't balanced. Where do we draw the line? And is it only unbalanced characters who you've decided are too good or do we include characters who aren't balanced b/c they don't have enough tools (or are they irrelevant because they're not a threat to you?)
You sir are missing the point of what I'm getting at.
What you're trying to say:
Balanced characters are playable in the tournament.
Alpha-152 is not a balanced character.
∴ Alpha is not playable in the tournament.
^The argument? It could work but Alpha-152 isn't the only character in the game who isn't balanced. Where do we draw the line? And is it only unbalanced characters who you've decided are too good or do we include characters who aren't balanced b/c they don't have enough tools (or are they irrelevant because they're not a threat to you?)
You sir are missing the point of what I'm getting at.
DR2K
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You're so funny and witty
MrMoon360
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You're so buff
R2Pichu
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Not trying to be rude....but are you guys dumb? or stupid?
Excluding wat everyone's strengths will be on DOA5U...I'm pretty sure Bass has a throw that does similar damage if u bait a counter right n other characters can do alot of damage if you bait a counter
but thats my opinion lol
just cus u guys suck at fightin Alpha or cant find the Obvious pattern to beating an Alpha player lol doesnt mean TN should take her out as a playable character its just a game silly bunnies get over it n just let it happen lol
Excluding wat everyone's strengths will be on DOA5U...I'm pretty sure Bass has a throw that does similar damage if u bait a counter right n other characters can do alot of damage if you bait a counter
but thats my opinion lol
just cus u guys suck at fightin Alpha or cant find the Obvious pattern to beating an Alpha player lol doesnt mean TN should take her out as a playable character its just a game silly bunnies get over it n just let it happen lol
He does with a wall or ceiling, but raw, I actually don't think he does have a 90 damage, uninterpretable throw (Bass experts feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
Thing is, Bass doesn't have an i9 jab or even half of the string capabilities Alpha does. The debate is not concerned with a single command, it's how all of her tools come together. It's a complex topic and you're over-simplifying it.
R2Pichu
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oh I am Veo? oh well I'm sorry
are you guys comparing Alpha to the spammy Shao Kahn on MK9 except you can play the spammer? lol
either way I think crying over Alpha being banned is eh
I only agree if Alpha shares her power with Pai! then everyone is happy
I dont think she needs to be banned, just fixed up a bit
you guys dont have to go to an extreme n say "No mommy I dont want this toy nomore!"
sheesh, pull a freakin Soul Calibur and Tekken and make her a charades random character then lol. Thats what I thought she was in the first place thanks to DOA5 Story
Well no, but players couldn't select Shao Kahn in tournaments.
That's what most of us would like, but that's primarily in TN's hands, not ours.
R2Pichu
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Why can't anyone else see that Veo? lol like seriously
maybe we all should email TN and be like "Fix Alpha? K, Bai."
Several of the well-known players in the community have voiced some concerns to TN. Sometimes they take the advice of the Western community, sometimes they don't. We'll just have to see when 5U comes out, I s'pose.
P1naatt1ke1tt0
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We'll have to see what kind of damage can be inflicted upon her with juggles, her being so light. If it's considerably more than with a regular lightweight, then she's ok in my book, a true glass cannon.
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