6++ Gameplay Overhaul
- Thread starter Rev_an
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Lol I crack myself up sometimes. Ever heard of hyperbole? I honestly thought this was a joint project between a few other people, didn't think it was all a one man operation. And again thought it was a mod that served as a replacement for vanilla with community involvement and to be played by people who are actively playing on PC.
I know NMF's 6++ mod is entirely his own doing and paying modders to help assist.
I know NMF's 6++ mod is entirely his own doing and paying modders to help assist.
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Rev_an
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should i make a new one for update 1? should pass functionality today or tomorrow, and after barring something like a hayabusa ceiling infinite being found in prerelease testing, we're a bit ahead of schedule.
Rev_an
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oh yeah i've been updating my patchnotes file at the same time as the tracker for the most part and missed a couple things
Rev_an
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when people ask him to? won't be me though. I've been pushing people away from doing a tournament on the beta build anyway, or ban like five characters lol. maybe emery and/or blank will try something next month with the update.
if there's enough player interest justifying hoodless change the pc weekly to ++ i'd consider it a wild success, but I think it would be inappropriate for me to ask him to force it.
WAZAAAAA
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did some back reading, sheeesh
(move ID: decimal 25822 is the universal one, 25569 is the one you get from Raidou SSS or Brad 8P, idk how many other ID's are there)
do you still need this? mmmm can't you just convert the later frames of the Bound animation from Crouching to Jump or Jumping, so that Close Hits won't ever register? It'd probably open up more Air Throw shenanigans though so watch out lols
(move ID: decimal 25822 is the universal one, 25569 is the one you get from Raidou SSS or Brad 8P, idk how many other ID's are there)
nice one, yoink stealing that
Rev_an
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i was looking for a more direct solution but maybe there's some state-based shenanigans i could use.
the thing of it is that the PL that are still in the game do (at least) three things with one command:
juggle scaling 50% flat
no close-hit bound
no propagation of counter/hi-counter multiplier
which has me thinking there should be a "right" way to do it, but i'll try out a hackey solution like that one of these days
the thing of it is that the PL that are still in the game do (at least) three things with one command:
juggle scaling 50% flat
no close-hit bound
no propagation of counter/hi-counter multiplier
which has me thinking there should be a "right" way to do it, but i'll try out a hackey solution like that one of these days
WAZAAAAA
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what "right" way bro that's the way TN themselves achieved Bound->Close Hit in 5LR (Gen Fu CH 3PP 33P 33P 16P) and 6, it's part of these system rules STUPID
- the Jump flags displayed in the Skill Info window mostly apply to Throw/OH immunity, this is a common state
- there's another type of hidden flag I like to call Airborne which dictates whether you'll get floated by a Strike or not, this is a less common state
- when you mix them up these are the outcomes
- there's another type of hidden flag I like to call Airborne which dictates whether you'll get floated by a Strike or not, this is a less common state
- when you mix them up these are the outcomes
Code:
Jump ON + Airborne OFF = Hi Counter, will force Standing (e.g. some frames of Tina 4P+K)
Jump ON + Airborne ON = floated, immune to Close Hit, immune to regular Throws/OH's (e.g. getting juggled)
Jump OFF + Airborne ON = floated, vulnerable to Throws/OH's (e.g. Brad 66P+K from frame 1)Rev_an
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lmao i was hoping we'd find some like "close hits work / close hits don't work" as a primitive like how wall stagger vs wall fall are (functionally) a boolean
WAZAAAAA
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@Rev_an posting this here
so again wtf is stopping you from making Crouching instantaneous (1F)? I suppose characters who have both a 3P/3_P input would have a harder time doing the 3P unbuffered? Still worth a try if possible
(why crouch sucks thread https://www.freestepdodge.com/threads/why-crouching-in-doa-feels-terrible.8696/)
so again wtf is stopping you from making Crouching instantaneous (1F)? I suppose characters who have both a 3P/3_P input would have a harder time doing the 3P unbuffered? Still worth a try if possible
(why crouch sucks thread https://www.freestepdodge.com/threads/why-crouching-in-doa-feels-terrible.8696/)
Somebody go play Lopedo at DOA6++
Should be interesting to hear his opinions if he gets some games going.
Should be interesting to hear his opinions if he gets some games going.