DOA5 and Sexualization: Too Much?

Has Team Ninja gone too far with DOA5 in regards to sexualization?

  • Yes, completely. They really need to back off.

    Votes: 59 33.7%
  • Well, borderline. They should be careful.

    Votes: 42 24.0%
  • I dunno. Whatever.

    Votes: 18 10.3%
  • Not really, no. They're good at the rate they're going.

    Votes: 36 20.6%
  • Not far enough, I say! Full speed ahead!!!

    Votes: 20 11.4%

  • Total voters
    175

KasumiLover

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Lol this picture -

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Is this actually New York now?!

@KasumiLover69 New York is never going to be in doa or SK. And she sucks anyway so that's that.
Whatever jade XD Lisa is DEAD and that's THAT XD plus she's fictional :-D @Chapstick don't insult Ed -_-

But wasn't this thread about if DOA is too sexualized? My answer to that is not at all imo, it'll only be sexualized to the extreme if they sexualized the guys the same way the girls are, not the occasional stuff they do
 

Jadeinchains

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Well I mean there isn't any news right now and won't be until TGS so for the time being people are just having casual ( triggered ) conversations about things and It's fun. To be completely on topic though... Is it too sexualized... No. I don't mind it anymore, I might of in the past but I don't anymore.

Oh and @KasumiLover69 Lisa is such a fierce woman that it doesn't matter. xoxo
 

KasumiLover

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Well I mean there isn't any news right now and won't be until TGS so for the time being people are just having casual ( triggered ) conversations about things and It's fun. To be completely on topic though... Is it too sexualized... No. I don't mind it anymore, I might of in the past but I don't anymore.

Oh and @KasumiLover69 Lisa is such a fierce woman that it doesn't matter. xoxo
She WAS a fierce fictional woman before the.... accident XD

And I do really hope they take it even further in DOA6 so there's more photo and video replay value
 

KasumiLover

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...Yes lol. The "accident" which was caused by your favorite character Kasumi and her team of ninja's and Hayate was also there. >:I That was no accident.
Exactly it was planned XD I think TN felt bad tho so they still give her DLC that's arguably amongst the more higher quality in packs
 

Juihau

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Maybe I'm naive but I have NEVER heard someone refer to someone as a "christmas cake" before?! XD.....................
I guess it's alluding to someone being tasty and scrumptious, just not in a culinary but sexual sense...? XD
Since nobody bothered to explain this, I guess I will. A Christmas Cake is a (rather derogatory) term for a woman above the age of 25. It comes from the idea that a literal Christmas cake seems more and more sweet and delicious as the 25th of December approaches, but once the 25th passes, it suddenly seems a lot less appetizing.
 

Jadeinchains

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Since nobody bothered to explain this, I guess I will. A Christmas Cake is a (rather derogatory) term for a woman above the age of 25. It comes from the idea that a literal Christmas cake seems more and more sweet and delicious as the 25th of December approaches, but once the 25th passes, it suddenly seems a lot less appetizing.

Wow I didn't know that. :eek: That's pretty interesting that that's a thing! Thanks for explaining it though!

Tina's 24 and Christie is 26 as well! :eek:
 

KasumiLover

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Since nobody bothered to explain this, I guess I will. A Christmas Cake is a (rather derogatory) term for a woman above the age of 25. It comes from the idea that a literal Christmas cake seems more and more sweet and delicious as the 25th of December approaches, but once the 25th passes, it suddenly seems a lot less appetizing.
That's right! Juihau is my twin except alot more reserved and far less shameless than I am so he knows what's up :p

Nyo could be one too but she's basically an oujou who uses her hime cut hair and her sexually charged banter and voluptuous body to grab the hearts of anyone so she breaks the mold and Helena is blonde, foreign fanservice and a more pleasant oujou so she avoids this too(But she's only got two more in game years before she's a Christmas cake too...) and both were popular enough to appear in X3.
 

Jadeinchains

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and both were popular enough to appear in X3.

I'm...Was this undercover shade?

You know fine well that A certain someone was last place out of every single woman in a certain poll...

Also I'm surprised it's considered that early that they're old! :eek: 25 is still a super young age. Helena is still younger than that though.
 

KasumiLover

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I'm...Was this undercover shade?

You know fine well that A certain someone was last place out of every single woman in a certain poll...

Also I'm surprised it's considered that early that they're old! :eek: 25 is still a super young age. Helena is still younger than that though.
was it Lisa?? XD I wouldn't expect any more from her tbh XD
 

Project Bokuho

Lady Helena's Pet
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Helena's 100% certified goddess material. That's all.

They also need to add a token ghetto bitchy black girl too with a voice like tiffany pollard, I would main her so that she could replace Lisa and show how a real boss black bitch acts

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This could be her character select pose and look ♡.♡ and they could ask Tiffany to voice her like I'll do when SK adds English dub so she can voice Ryona!
Lol, doesn't she look more like this recently?

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Then we could as well add her:

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(What is she holding there? XD)
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i still don't know any of these people lmao
Good. They're not important l0l
 

Awesmic

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Since nobody bothered to explain this, I guess I will. A Christmas Cake is a (rather derogatory) term for a woman above the age of 25. It comes from the idea that a literal Christmas cake seems more and more sweet and delicious as the 25th of December approaches, but once the 25th passes, it suddenly seems a lot less appetizing.
I never heard of this term in my life.

Either way, that's bullshit.
 

KasumiLover

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I never heard of this term in my life.

Either way, that's bullshit.
I didn't mean that offensively XD I like Christie but Japan doesn't seem to like the mature girls, she's more western taste if you will like Lisa and Tina. Christie imo is like fresh mint white chocolate, can have long shelf life and not be eaten for months but that first bite is still great

In DOA6 for Kasumi I hope her loose hair will be her new default since she let it down in story mode
 

Awesmic

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I didn't mean that offensively XD I like Christie but Japan doesn't seem to like the mature girls, she's more western taste if you will like Lisa and Tina. Christie imo is like fresh mint white chocolate, can have long shelf life and not be eaten for months but that first bite is still great
I used to have a Christie doll. And every bite felt fresh until I broke it by accident. I paid good money for that custom-made doll too.
 

werewolfgold

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*Walks back into FSD after a month*

...Oh, hey, gaiz, are we doing this again? lol

I'm sure I've said plenty in this thread already, but if new people are passing by, I can give a refresher.

I don't really have a problem with sexy women per se. I don't even mind a bikini here or there. But I think that DOA5 Ultimate and beyond veered off into the abyss for several reasons.

1. I'm not a fan of devs showing blatant favoritism in their characters. There's always going to be a few "main characters", but TN has effectively written off the entirety of the male cast. Polygonal models, marketing, costumes, you name it. That isn't really fair to fans of those characters. And while they are a business, and businesses are just based on who's willing to pony up the money and not being fair, they are incentivizing being a fan of the female characters while discouraging people from the male characters, creating a weird, chicken-egg vicious circle where maybe the male characters could become more popular if they actually cared to put in an effort but they don't. Dudes can be sexy and/or appealing in other ways. Why can't I jet ski with Leon and Ryu? That'd be fun/funny as hell. But, maybe that would break people's harem fantasy...

Anyway, what it boils down to is that if you're going to create a character at all, why would you just neglect them afterward? But, good on them for at least giving the guys, like...2 beach outfits compared to the gals' 25+. And Ein is a thing, I guess. lol

2. With that being said, I'm not an idiot. Sexy women are appealing. I get it. But, their (this part of Japan's culture, really, and not just TN's) idea of "sexy" is lame, copypasta porn fetishes (nurse, maid, bunny, etc.) with no personality whatsoever. Creating compelling and varied characters doesn't matter, and that's hella annoying to me. The "sexiness" wouldn't be as big of a problem if they weren't cheapening the characters in the process. I'm not into some wish-fulfillment fantasy where I can frolic on the beach, watch (pseudo-)jailbait pole dance, and go on dates with ninja assassins and have them fall all over me for...some reason. Yes, the trained ninja with a kill count who knows where is just going to blush and cover herself up if you try to grope her? No. That's dumb. At the very least, your arm is coming off.

Are we really trying to just have DOA be a dating sim? I'm pretty sure either the director or the producer joked about that a while back. As long as it's generically cute and demure (read: Marie and Honoka), then people just throw all their money at it. I want the audience to want more than that, because that type of cheese is LITERALLY everywhere in Japan and all of these similar characters just blend into each other. But, obviously, I can't control a given populace. And if the populace doesn't care, why would the devs care? Sure, it's an international fighting tournament. But, who cares about interesting new countries and fighting styles when we can just have Honoka and call it a day? It's just sad.

3. The gameplay is paramount, and I really enjoy playing DOA (the fighting game). But, since I do like the gameplay, I only have minimal nitpicks and suggestions there, while...there's all this aesthetic and peripheral stuff that irks me to no end. And if there's a game with gameplay I like and the peripheral stuff doesn't irk me (it's getting to be a smaller and smaller group unfortunately), then I would choose that over DOA (and that would go for a lot of people). That's why this stuff is worth talking about in my view. We can act like DOAX isn't DOA proper, but it's never been walled off. The two sides affect each other. I have absolutely no sympathy for TN/KT when people don't want to see past all the cheesecake and get to the cool fighting game underneath because they are the ones in charge of the narrative surrounding their games. Maybe this is truly the type of game the devs want and...okay. But, I don't have to like it or support it if it continues along this road.

TL;DR: Fewer sex dolls, more interesting characters (male and female). Also, stop writing off the male characters (and perhaps older female ones). And quit with the copypasta.

I hope DOA6 is soon on the horizon. It's a chance to do a semi-reset on a few things. But, we're probably going to get 2 more Japanese high school girls and another blonde added to the game and then someone is going to comically fall into Honoka's boobs or something during the story mode...
 
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