DOA5 and Sexualization: Too Much?

[Sotherius]

Netherrealm still needs to learn how to do proper fighting game animations though...

DOA already looks better than any NRS game on artstyle and animations alone.

For me it is safe to say that DOA 6 will be something around NiOH's artstyle, since they are already similar, but is also how i see TN working in the future, NiOH doesn't have much problems with clipping and the hair engine is solid. You can see how it is a very similar artstyle to DOA by looking at Ginchiyo's face, she looks a lot like Momiji.

 

[KasumiLover]

Lol, now the conversation is going, while I was taking my afternoon nap. XD

Nioh isn't entirely photo realistic in style. It still is, like DOA5, realism adding a certain anime aesthetic. Because the PS4 can do more than the PS3 they obviously went more into detail, especially in the faces department.
I don't think they plan to have DOA 6 look entirely realistic, PS4 and Xbox One would fail them on that task anyway.



Nope, MKX too used a modified and optimized version of the Unreal Engine 3, not UE4. It would make zero sense to switch to a new engine and then switch back to an old, discarded one.
Staying with their old engine is among other things why Injustice 2 looked so good. They had already heavily optimized it for MKX, then they optimized it even more for IJ2. I bet they will finally lay it to rest now though...
*insert gif of falling debris crushing Lisa to death*
...especially considering they very likely will be porting the game to PC next.

What made Injustic 2 really look better than MKX was less the graphics engine though, but the intent to finally rethink their approach of modelling and animating human beings. They finally created actual humans, not ugly cavemen and cavew̶o̶m̶e̶n̶ men. Yeah, the women finally look like women. XD

Still tho graphics wise is why Injustice 2 is really getting alot of praise, that and the face models to be straightforward

My point still stands, DOA6 better be better them DOA5 and Nioh graphics wise

 

[Jadeinchains]

Lol, now the conversation is going, while I was taking my afternoon nap. XD

Nioh isn't entirely photo realistic in style. It still is, like DOA5, realism adding a certain anime aesthetic. Because the PS4 can do more than the PS3 they obviously went more into detail, especially in the faces department.
I don't think they plan to have DOA 6 look entirely realistic, PS4 and Xbox One would fail them on that task anyway.

Lol you can always count on the conversation happening while your gone. But yeah not only do I not want but I really don't expect them to go for a completely realistic look for doa6, It's good it having a level of anime aesthetic to it, It makes it more pretty and unique. I think like Nioh they'll just be using the advancements since doa5 to give more detail to everything in doa6 like Nioh did.

@KasumiLover69

Absolutely though, Doa6 I hope has better graphics than doa5 ( definitely ) and Nioh ( I think it will be very similar to Nioh in graphics and style. )

I bet they will finally lay it to rest now though...
*insert gif of falling debris crushing Lisa to death*

 

[Tyaren]

My point still stands, DOA6 better be better them DOA5 and Nioh graphics wise

Looking better than DOA5 it will easily, looking better than Nioh it will likely too. They now have more experience by already working on the PS4 and Nioh is a graphically/technically much more demanding game than a fighter, I'd say. You have way more characters on screen at once there, bigger environments and you also have a lot more effects going on.
One important question though, did Nioh run in 60fps on the standard PS4 (I know on the PS4 Pro it did)?
That's the thing that actually is graphically hampering so many console games. If you have to render double the frames, the game looks just half as good basically. If Nioh just ran at 30fps on PS4 looking like this, while DOA6 has to run in double the framerate and looking even better, then that's bad news, lol.

I can't believe we have no Lisa death gifs. :/

To steer this a bit more back to topic:
In Nioh we also got a glimpse of what improvements we can expect regarding the modelling of the men:

If William is any indication, the men of DOA6 too will finally not be able to poke their opponents eyes out with their pointy low polygon bodies anymore. XD And there is a bit more muscle definition as well.

 

[Sotherius]

One important question though, did Nioh run in 60fps on the standard PS4 (I know on the PS4 Pro it did)?

NiOH can run on a regular ps4 at 720p 60fps, or 1080p, 30 fps, but, you can pick 1080p uncapped fps, that will give you sometimes 60fps, but it will stay around 40 fps...

I would say they can make the same graphics work in a fighting game in 1080p 60fps on a regular PS4 easily.

 

[Jadeinchains]

Looking better than DOA5 it will easily, looking better than Nioh it will likely too. They now have more experience by already working on the PS4 and Nioh is a graphically/technically much more demanding game than a fighter, I'd say. You have way more characters on screen at once there, bigger environments and you also have a lot more effects going on.
One important question though, did Nioh run in 60fps on the standard PS4 (I know on the PS4 Pro it did)?
That's the thing that actually is graphically hampering so many console games. If you have to render double the frames, the game looks just half as good basically. If Nioh just ran at 30fps on PS4 looking like this, while DOA6 has to run in double the framerate and looking even better, then that's bad news, lol.




I can't believe we have no Lisa death gifs. :/

To steer this a bit more back to topic:
In Nioh we also got a glimpse of what improvements we can expect regarding the modelling of the men:

If William is any indication, the men of DOA6 too will finally not be able to poke their oponents eyes out with their pointy low polygon bodies anymore. XD And there is a bit more muscle definition as well.

Good. I hope we never have an gifs of that horrible moment in time. *cries*
Yeah though William looks good so If he's an indication for how the men in doa6 will look then I'm A okay with that. And yeah I can see it being better looking than doa5 by a lot and better than Nioh too since It has more time I'm sure.

Bayman should look really good in doa6... Bass too. The most important person I want to see though in doa6 especially after the events of doa5 is Lisa, I'll be wanting to see her in the game and playable.

 

[Tyaren]

NiOH can run on a regular ps4 at 720p 60fps, or 1080p, 30 fps, but, you can pick 1080p uncapped fps, that will give you sometimes 60fps, but it will stay around 40 fps...

I would say they can make the same graphics work in a fighting game in 1080p 60fps on a regular PS4 easily.

I see... That is a bit concerning though. Especially the 720p part. That's really low for a PS4 game. If Nioh or DOA6 had to run on XboxOne it would be around 600p, which would frankly look like shit.
But as I said, Nioh seems to be a more graphically demanding game than a 3D fighter anyway.
Dissidia has pretty nice character models, 6 at once per match, fairly large stages, a firework of effects filling the screen and it too runs in 1080p and solid 60fps. That's a good sign.
What all these game lack is antialiasing though, they all look very jaggy. But that's what the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X are for, I guess.

Bayman should look really good in doa6...

They imo literally gave Bayman's face to William. XD

 

[KasumiLover]

Looking better than DOA5 it will easily, looking better than Nioh it will likely too. They now have more experience by already working on the PS4 and Nioh is a graphically/technically much more demanding game than a fighter, I'd say. You have way more characters on screen at once there, bigger environments and you also have a lot more effects going on.
One important question though, did Nioh run in 60fps on the standard PS4 (I know on the PS4 Pro it did)?
That's the thing that actually is graphically hampering so many console games. If you have to render double the frames, the game looks just half as good basically. If Nioh just ran at 30fps on PS4 looking like this, while DOA6 has to run in double the framerate and looking even better, then that's bad news, lol.




I can't believe we have no Lisa death gifs. :/

To steer this a bit more back to topic:
In Nioh we also got a glimpse of what improvements we can expect regarding the modelling of the men:

If William is any indication, the men of DOA6 too will finally not be able to poke their oponents eyes out with their pointy low polygon bodies anymore. XD And there is a bit more muscle definition as well.

Hopefully they go further, that muscle tone looks mediocre in my opinion, they can definitely do better than that now as long as they refine what lacked in since next to other games like tekken and injustice 2 and SFV, KT and TN developed game muscle definition is lacking but they focus more on women and don't make it even so I can understand that

Street fighter and arguably Tekken may be a stretch muscle wise but DOA6 could afford to go up to about Injustice 2 quality in terms of Muscle, William in Nioh looks only 5.8% better than the male body models are in DOA5LR.

 

[Tyaren]

While I agree that DOA's men could use a little more muscle definition (but not muscle mass), Tekken's men are imo ridiculously muscular. They don't look like nimble martial artists but professional bodybuilders with some steroid abuse going on, lol. In Injustice 2 it doesn't feel so out of place and Street Fighter has over top characters and body proportions anway, but guys like Jin or Hwoarang or Claudio with their pretty boy faces and then these pumped up, vascular bodies look jarring. D:

@Chapstick

Spoiler

*pop* XD

 

[KasumiLover]

They also need to add a token ghetto bitchy black girl too with a voice like tiffany pollard, I would main her so that she could replace Lisa and show how a real boss black bitch acts

This could be her character select pose and look ♡.♡ and they could ask Tiffany to voice her like I'll do when SK adds English dub so she can voice Ryona!

 

[Tyaren]

They also need to add a token ghetto bitchy black girl too with a voice like tiffany pollard, I would main her so that she could replace Lisa and show how a real boss black bitch acts

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This could be her character select pose and look ♡.♡ and they could ask Tiffany to voice her like I'll do when SK adds English dub so she can voice Ryona!

Lol, doesn't she look more like this recently?

Then we could as well add her:

(What is she holding there? XD)

 

[Jadeinchains]

The guys in Tekken are far to over the top in terms of muscular so no I don't want the men to look like them.

They also need to add a token ghetto bitchy black girl too with a voice like tiffany pollard, I would main her so that she could replace Lisa and show how a real boss black bitch acts

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This could be her character select pose and look ♡.♡ and they could ask Tiffany to voice her like I'll do when SK adds English dub so she can voice Ryona!

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Umm no.

Lisa is perfection and she isn't going to be beat by some reject like Tiffany sorry to burst that bubble.

@Tyaren Is that actually a picture of how Tiffany looks now...???

 

[KasumiLover]

The guys in Tekken are far to over the top in terms of muscular so no I don't want the men to look like them.



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Umm no.

Lisa is perfection and she isn't going to be beat by some reject like Tiffany sorry to burst that bubble.

@Tyaren Is that actually a picture of how Tiffany looks now...???

Tiffany isn't a reject, like Kasumi out of almost twenty other girls she remains the most relevant(and actually exists and isn't deceased) and successful even with two lolis in the mix XD I would marry Tiffany real talk

Also i hope there's more sweat and dirt in DOA6 do there's more water on the skin and so dirt can stain the face and hair of the characters instead of just everything but. They can also make cloth destructible too

 

[Chapstick]

While I agree that DOA's men could use a little more muscle definition (but not muscle mass), Tekken's men are imo ridiculously muscular. They don't look like nimble martial artists but professional bodybuilders with some steroid abuse going on, lol. In Injustice 2 it doesn't feel so out of place and Street Fighter has over top characters and body proportions anway, but guys like Jin or Hwoarang or Claudio with their pretty boy faces and then these pumped up, vascular bodies look jarring. D:

@Chapstick

Spoiler

*pop* XD

I was actually triggert before I saw your message bc when I clicked the thread it was hanging on this pic as it was loading

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Aquaman looks good but the Tekken guy is too sinewy and Ed looks like an action figure that turns at its ribcage like this

 

[Tyaren]

@Tyaren Is that actually a picture of how Tiffany looks now...???

If you are talking about pic number one, yes, that is her now. If you are talking about pic number 2, that's of course everyone's most favorite blackface model Martina Big. :3

 

[Jadeinchains]

If you are talking about pic number one, yes, that is her now. If you are talking about pic number 3, that's of course everyone's most favorite blackface model Martina Big. :3

Lol this picture -

Spoiler

Is this actually New York now?!

@KasumiLover69 New York is never going to be in doa or SK. And she sucks anyway so that's that.

 

[Mayor-Of-Mustard]

i still don't know any of these people lmao

 

[Tyaren]

Is
this actually New York now?!

Yes! XD This...

Spoiler

...is New York now.

I think this thread is awfully close to being closed... >__>

 

[Mayor-Of-Mustard]

the same picture of that weird dress lady with the red thing in her drink has been posted 3 times. guys calm down pls thx this thread is about fanservice not fan disservice

 

[Jadeinchains]

Wow she sure has changed a lot but anyway yeah we should probably get a little more on topic even though It's just us few that are posting in this thread anyway so It isn't like we're getting in the way of other people on the forum, right?

the same picture of that weird dress lady with the red thing in her drink has been posted 3 times. guys calm down pls thx

LMAO! XD Okay I'm going to put mine in spoilers if you'll do the same @Tyaren to hide her?