DOA3++ Balance/Gameplay Mod
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UpSideDownGRUNT
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Gultigargar
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Are all of the unaltered aspects of this mod identical to those of 3.1 or 3.2? I'm assuming 3.1 for obvious reasons, but it's not specifically stated anywhere.
Gultigargar
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Oh yeah, probably should have mentioned that. Yes, I used 3.1 as the base.
I hate to be that guy who has to ask a question that's probably really dumb, but how exactly do I add the following three files to 3.1's loadfile.afs?
DeadOrAlive3++
DeadOrAlive3++Shadow
sprite#03
I was able to overwrite all the original character .bin files with the new ones, but I can't seem to figure out how to add a brand new file without it having to overwrite something.
DeadOrAlive3++
DeadOrAlive3++Shadow
sprite#03
I was able to overwrite all the original character .bin files with the new ones, but I can't seem to figure out how to add a brand new file without it having to overwrite something.
Okay, got it.
Just to be sure I did it right, the only DOA3 logo that can be replaced with the included DOA3++ logo is the one in "sprite#01.xpr", which is the logo that appears at the "Press Start Button" screen, correct? Because that (and the sprite#03 image) is the only one that I could get to change.
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Gultigargar
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Yes, that is correct.
Gultigargar
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I've updated the .rar file with the smaller logo added, and the image files renamed to hopefully be easier to figure which files should be replaced.
@Mr. Wah The logos use the "palette ARGB 8 bpp | 256 colors + alpha" compression type. I think you have to have an alpha layer with everything you want included, or it'll just save as a black image.
@Mr. Wah The logos use the "palette ARGB 8 bpp | 256 colors + alpha" compression type. I think you have to have an alpha layer with everything you want included, or it'll just save as a black image.
Cool, though there are some issues now in the updated .rar file. Unless I was just somehow looking at some of them wrong.
1. The copy of the sprite#03 image is now an older one that lists the version of the game as "v1.00" whereas before it was a newer one that said "v1.01"
2. The title screen logo image that is supposed to go in sprite#01_012-P8s-1 seems to now be the shadow image that's supposed to go in sprite#01_013-P8s-1 instead, with the shadow image for sprite#01_013-P8s-1 now appearing to be a plain black image.
I still had the images from the previous .rar pack though, so I was able to fix this.
On another note, it's also worth mentioning that the new, smaller logo images "sprite#01_008-P8s-1" and "sprite#01_009-P8s-1" that will appear in the demo mode when the game idles at the title screen can also be applied in the sprite#04 section as "005-P8s-1" and "006-P8s-1" respectively, so that they also appear when you set bots to fight each other in the watch mode.
1. The copy of the sprite#03 image is now an older one that lists the version of the game as "v1.00" whereas before it was a newer one that said "v1.01"
2. The title screen logo image that is supposed to go in sprite#01_012-P8s-1 seems to now be the shadow image that's supposed to go in sprite#01_013-P8s-1 instead, with the shadow image for sprite#01_013-P8s-1 now appearing to be a plain black image.
I still had the images from the previous .rar pack though, so I was able to fix this.
On another note, it's also worth mentioning that the new, smaller logo images "sprite#01_008-P8s-1" and "sprite#01_009-P8s-1" that will appear in the demo mode when the game idles at the title screen can also be applied in the sprite#04 section as "005-P8s-1" and "006-P8s-1" respectively, so that they also appear when you set bots to fight each other in the watch mode.
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Gultigargar
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Thanks for telling me, should be fixed now.
I'm assuming the answer is no, as it'd probably be impossible or way too time consuming, but I gotta ask. Do you think it'd be possible at all to get Tengu in here by somehow importing his 2U data? Either by using it to complete the tengu.bin data that already exists, making a new one for him, or even replacing another character (perhaps Brad)? Maybe as an alternate version of DOA3++ in the case of the latter option.
Obviously he'd need to be rebalanced and changed in various other ways to play more like a DOA3 character, but like @Gultigargar said on the first page, I'd love to play him in DOA3.
Obviously he'd need to be rebalanced and changed in various other ways to play more like a DOA3 character, but like @Gultigargar said on the first page, I'd love to play him in DOA3.
I thought Tengu.bin (and the other Tengu files) are his PS2 DOA2H iterations and they worked with file swapping - he's just missing a model and character slot. That's my understanding, but I could be wrong. Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge can look into it a bit more. I'm no where savvy as I'd like to be, to this day. Fun fact, swapping DOA2U files into the several year older DOA3 engine (1 2 3) gives you a bunch of glitchy (but interesting) issues; I feel completing the existing code would probably be easier than porting over 2U's data. Either scenario's a pipedream at this point unless someone wants to prove me wrong.
As in you could basically apply an existing character model (like Bass, for example) to it and essentially play as Tengu, just without the right model? That would be a start. I have no idea if at least his character models could be imported from 2U (or even 2H) though, nor do I have any idea if it'd be possible to put him on the character select screen.
Another thing would be audio. Do we know if his DOA2H voice files are in the game? And if they aren't, is it possible to add voice files to the game and assign them to different attacks? I do have all of his DOA2U voice clips, as well as most of his DOA4 ones.
Hopefully someone can.
Gultigargar
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Making Tengu playable is something that I know for certain is beyond my skills, but I can give you a look into what is actually there in the game:
His behavior reminds me a lot of how DOA3 character data acts when imported into DOA2U, so I'm guessing they just straight up copy and pasted his DOA2 data over and never actually properly converted it.
His inputs aren't set up properly, so you can't really do anything while playing as him. However, since the CPU doesn't actually use inputs, a CPU controlled Tengu can access some of his moves.
Regarding DOA2U models, I know one guy converted some DOA3 models to be usable in DOA2U/DOA Online, so I guess it might be possible to also go the other way. Would be cool, I know there are certainly a couple of DOA2U costumes that I'd like to see in DOA3.
His behavior reminds me a lot of how DOA3 character data acts when imported into DOA2U, so I'm guessing they just straight up copy and pasted his DOA2 data over and never actually properly converted it.
His inputs aren't set up properly, so you can't really do anything while playing as him. However, since the CPU doesn't actually use inputs, a CPU controlled Tengu can access some of his moves.
Regarding DOA2U models, I know one guy converted some DOA3 models to be usable in DOA2U/DOA Online, so I guess it might be possible to also go the other way. Would be cool, I know there are certainly a couple of DOA2U costumes that I'd like to see in DOA3.