DOA5 and Sexualization: Too Much?

[Woozy]

1. Who buys games for masturbation ever? Saying or no, someone doing something specifically for that must have never heard of the internet period.

You'd be surprised at how stupid /v/irgins are with their money.

2. Except considering the mindset of some people, anyone who doesn't completely rep DOA might as well be a basement dweller. The issue is that what makes a fan a fan? That they buy the game? That they go to tournaments? Is there suddenly a criteria now?

Yeah, the criteria on /v/ is "Be knowledgeable about the video game and discuss it when it's brought up". That's how you tell a fan from someone else there. When you're asked about anything that's not waifus you're told "Go to FSD if you want to talk about the game"

it's the fact that there is too many chances the wrong people will voice something that will utterly change everything like with Injustice's patching that basically killed the game for plenty of people.

And this is what I don't want to happen. You're obviously not gonna understand where I'm coming from unless you experience it for yourself.

Again, that would make sense...if it was true. There are far less people who see this game as a "Titty Simulator" than when DOAXBV and Xtreme 2 popped up. While the marketing sucks ass still, the streams that feature the game had more people actually state whether they didn't like the game on a mechanical level, inspired them to actually play it or they dropped it but it re-invigorated them to play it again.
And you do realize TN can't do ANYTHING about the PC release right? There is already nude mods for this game on the freaking X360 and there is plenty of other games that people made nude mods on and other fanservice outfits and they even shot themselves in the foot trying to address it so why is that paramount?

The point of that whole paragraph went so far over your head it exited the Earth's atmosphere and died in outer space. Did you miss the words "hypothetical scenario"? Where did I say anything about nude mods on the PC?

Well then maybe you should leave places like that. While it is obvious there needs to be a balance, telling those who are buying them to fuck off is the dumbest way to get that point across. Go tell TN to add in more tasteful outfits...and then BUY THEM! There's a reason that the Casual Selection stopped and that was because Tecmo Koei didn't see it as worth it compared to how much the other outfits cost. This is a business, you need to actually make the demand KNOWN otherwise we will still be stuck with the DLC outfits of skimpiness.

You're telling the wrong guy to buy the costumes they like.

We can continue this through PM if you want, I'd rather not have the thread revolve around my personal grievances any further than it already has.

 

[Malibu]

How i feel about literally everything here.

 

[Argentus]

Why do you assume "the people who don't actually care about the game" automatically means "the people who buy the costumes"? So long as you actually play the game for the sake of playing it, and not solely for the sake of masturbation, I don't care what costumes you buy. I may not like them, but I won't piss and moan at you about it. I want to be able to tell the people who don't care about the quality of the games to fuck off, that this game isn't for them. Also, I plan on being more on top of Team Ninja with quality of these costumes, I just need to figure out what the best way to go about it would be.

It's a matter of image. The way I see it more people who view the game as "that titty simulator", the less the community thrives. There'll be more people who know the intricacies of the boob physics than the game's mechanics, and then the hardcore community will stagnate. Sure, there'd be some new blood in this hypothetical scenario, but there could be a lot more, especially with the franchise expanding to the PC. I'm not saying they need to stop making fanservice-y costumes altogether (though I'd like that a lot), I'm saying there needs to be a balance between the two, and that the fanservice should match the character's general perception. For example, Mila.

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Then again, I'm not the go-to guy for the status of the community, I only went to /v/ for news and shit for awhile, and being exposed to that for a long period of time will make a pessimist out of anyone. I didn't even know there were big tournaments for DoA until recently. That being said, I can't wait until the PC version comes out so I can start posting combos and shit there. Don't get me wrong, I like the community, but there are those little bits that I just can't stand, and those are the ones I have the most experience with.

Lol Mila is the poster child for dlc costumes being inappropriate to the character.

 

[Woozy]

Lol Mila is the poster child for dlc costumes being inappropriate to the character.

Momiji too to some extent. What kind of Shrine Maiden would dress like THIS

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[werewolfgold]

One does not simply write an article about breast physics in video games without mentioning DOA. lol
http://kotaku.com/how-video-game-breasts-are-made-and-why-they-can-go-so-1687753475

But, this is actually an interesting and informative article. Plus, there's this.

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DAT SOFT ENGINE.

 

[Goarmagon]

Well I hope some of you are happy.

http://www.freestepdodge.com/threads/fsd-doa-tournament-standard-rules.156/page-3#post-247441

 

[Aerospark]

lmaooooooooooooooooo.

 

[Jyakotu]

It's gotten to the point of banning costumes. Sad.

 

[werewolfgold]

Based on what Hubb said his personal experiences were, I can understand why he felt that this would be a good move. However, it does indeed need to be a suggestion rather than drop-kicking anyone who picks a costume that is "too sexy". That's an arbitrary line.

But, he did say that TO's are really free to do whatever they want and it is technically only a soft-ban at this point in time.

 

[Argentus]

Im for it.

Less because of overly sexy and more because I've been arguing against the costumes not suiting the actual characters for a long time now.

 

[Number 13]

Im for it.

Less because of overly sexy and more because I've been arguing against the costumes not suiting the actual characters for a long time now.

Except even with the list of ban costumes it still won't accomplish that if even that was the main intent? Glad I know Ein is an Incubus or a pirate.

 

[Xhominid The Demon Within]

Im for it.

Less because of overly sexy and more because I've been arguing against the costumes not suiting the actual characters for a long time now.

You do realize that the Mila Ninja outfit is banned on the list right?

 

[Argentus]

Except even with the list of ban costumes it still won't accomplish that if even that was the main intent? Glad I know Ein is an Incubus or a pirate.

Its still a step in the right direction. If it were up to me? Id be banning almost all of the dlc outfits.

You do realize that the Mila Ninja outfit is banned on the list right?

And?

I'm only really in favor of that because its the first time in over a year she got something that wasn't just another skimpy bikini, generic fetish costume. or yet ANOTHER palette swapped short shorts/ crop top outfit.

It may just be a copy of ayanes outfit but even bothering to color them to each character is more than can he said for most dlc.

But more importantly, pants.

 

[Blash]

Its still a step in the right direction. If it were up to me? Id be banning almost all of the dlc outfits.

Cant agree with that... its a step in a very backwards direction!
...and then thank god you're not!

 

[HHH816]

http://kotaku.com/dead-or-alive-community-leaders-soft-ban-sexy-costumes-1688796997

 

[SolidSonicTH]

It's humorous we're even having this discussion. Wasn't DoA5 originally supposed to be more subtle in regards to this sort of thing in order to get people's focus back onto the fighting? What happened to that?

 

[Number 13]

It's humorous we're even having this discussion. Wasn't DoA5 originally supposed to be more subtle in regards to this sort of thing in order to get people's focus back onto the fighting? What happened to that?

That stopped after Alpha build. Japan complained the girls were not sexy enough and they caved. Kind of ironic since the first ever DoA 5 trailer showcased Hayabusa vs Hayate. Ayane and Hitomi were showcased in relatively conservative outfits as well.

 

[synce]

I'm pretty sure Japan wasn't the only country to complain... I mean DOA was built on sex and violence, if you take away the sex it's not DOA. That's like MK without fatalities.

 

[Argentus]

Cant agree with that... its a step in a very backwards direction!
...and then thank god you're not!

I wouldn't ban the good outfits, just the shitty inappropriate fetishwear. Which happens to be most of the dlc. Id be keeping the good stuff like legacy, casual, and school. And ONE bikini for each girl. ONE.

I'm pretty sure Japan wasn't the only country to complain... I mean DOA was built on sex and violence, if you take away the sex it's not DOA. That's like MK without fatalities.

Yeah but the issue is that they've 180'd and gone completely overboard

Like, aside from specific things like doa4 endings and the bikinis in 2u, DOA was actually fairly classy about it. It was a stylish fighter with some female characters who HAPPENED to be attractive. Spinoffs notwithstanding.

Now though? Worse than its EVER been. Especially the marketing.

 

[Number 13]

Now though? Worse than its EVER been. Especially the marketing.

I don't know, the marketing was quite something even back then.