"This ends now. By my hand!" Kasumi's DOA5LR Discussion Thread

[Chapstick]

Oops I forgot about 4KK and 9PK.

Another note- I'd like it if it wasn't so easy to jump over someone with 9P after 66PP~6P+K

 

[J.D.E.]

What do you not like about 4KK?

 

[Chapstick]

I just was listing off moves that are "unholdable" meaning holding results in SS, which is what I was talking about when I mentioned 7K

 

[RenderingStar]

In my opinion 4K is a wonderful move it allows for mix up and wall splat for high damage

 

[RenderingStar]

Also with Kasumi I've looked into a guaranteed CB but I think it's impossible to find one

 

[J.D.E.]

She used to have 2 in vanilla. She had 66KK (the original) into a CB & 6PK 2K into a CB but it was situational. Of course she lost them .

 

[RenderingStar]

I'm looking for situational h+k>2k stun

 

[J.D.E.]

I set it like this if they like to slow escape:

H+K > 2K > 4H+K > 3P. It extends her stun to maximum level.

I use that one too but rarely since it's always being abused by other Kasumi players.

 

[RenderingStar]

I always do 2K>9k because even if they SE you can 4pkk or pkk7k which is nice damage and can be easily mixed up

 

[RenderingStar]

So Chapstick

 

[RenderingStar]

I found your death combo

 

[RenderingStar]

After the wall splat do 33p>2p>Pkkk(it's 3 more damage) and it's ends directly at 300

 

[Chapstick]

You managed to get that last kick to connect? Whenever I try it the opponent's too low and it whiffs

 

[RenderingStar]

Yea

 

[Chapstick]

On someone other than Alpha?

 

[RenderingStar]

Yup I did it on Ayane

 

[J.D.E.]

I'm really wanting them to work on the ground game a bit more in DOA5LR. Kasumi can deal with it, but she has to play the guessing game more. That's what I liked about vanilla's ground game, despite how dumb & braindead force teching setups were. You wouldn't be lying on the ground constantly without having to worry about being at a disadvantage. There's some characters who can play the ground game consistently & then some who can't. Rig is one of them who can do it consistently. The invincibility of the ground causes ground attacks to whiff for a lot of characters. Even when they've been on the ground longer than like...3 seconds.

When I have an opponent on the ground, I shouldn't have to worry about being hit out by a wake up kick. That easily negates it. Sure, you can hold it, but that's a part of DOA. The part I do like is the hard knockdowns. If wake up kicks weren't the way that they are in the game, then I would be fine with it, but it's not to where characters are consistent in doing so.

As Kasumi, she has things to beat out wake up kicks & has force techs, but at times, I don't real that it's worth the risk. More often, I find myself using 4H+K when I catch them lying on the ground than I do 9KK's setup because of how players immediately tech after the hard knockdown. Even after a force tech, there's always the possibility of getting punished by a wake up kick or tech rolled & then throw punished (which is also a part of DOA).

 

[RenderingStar]

I mean using force techs all depend in the player you fighter for example a set up I use is( Lvl 3 stun) 6k(knock down) into 4H+K or 66H+K another option I use is get a hard knock down than bait the tech up with 2k and which ever way they tech 66H+K will catch them and you can repeat the process

 

[RenderingStar]

And Tylor found and amazing set up with Kasumi with a few tweaks we might've able to find a guaranteed CB

 

[J.D.E.]

But you have to ask yourself, is it worth the risk. That's where I'm getting at.