"Lead" is a pretty interpretive term. He doesn't visually do more than any of the other ninjas during that assault.
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I mean let's be real here. All of the other ninjas would've attacked DOATEC eventually. Hayate just told everyone what they were going to do anyway.
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SilverForte
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I dunno where else to ask this, but what's the fastest way to unlock all the costumes for the chars? In the past games you could use survival mode to get em all but I don't think that works here. I really don't want to have to beat arcade mode over and over again for the costumes.
Chapstick
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Tag arcade you unlock a costume for both characters every time and it's 5 matches rather than 8 in solo.
SilverForte
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Cool, does it have to be on default settings or can I set it to smallest health 1 round?
I dunno. Ayane and Kasumi, definitely. Hayabusa...
He could crush DOATEC single-handedly if he really set out to it, but he really seems to have the idea that it's the Mugen Tenshin's problem and wants them to ultimately finish their own shit. He provides assistance, but seems determined to let the Mugen Tenshin take the big bold steps and victories if at all possible, only intervening when he feels it necessary.
For example, he helps Kasumi beat Raidou, though only offers a tiny bit of assistance because he wants Kasumi to beat Raidou herself. He then protects Kasumi and helps Hayate restore his memory in DOA2, and defeats the Tengu by himself, seeing it as a threat greater than DOATEC itself. Then Genra comes around, and he wants to intervene here because he feels like it's more of a ninja v ninja issue than ninja v DOATEC (he doesn't get there in time to take Genra himself, however, so he simply helps Ayane and Hayate take him down). Then when Alpha shows up, he leaves Kasumi to deal with it on her own, seeing it as her duty and destiny. Then in DOA5, when shit gets real, he feels like it's time to finally summon the true Kasumi (who he aided by sheltering and protecting her) to finish her war with DOATEC. He offers a little assistance, repelling ninpo and roflcopters and the like, but his main aid is in getting the Mugen Tenshin to the point where they can handle their own crap.
He does get a little pissed when he sees Alpha trying to copy him though. Feeling like that was then his duty to neutralize the trouble that was caused by him, he jumps in and fights doa5 alpha. Something about the explosion caused the other ninja to go "meh, let's just sit and watch as Kasumi delas with this crap."
I use default settings, so I can't answer that. But you can keep replaying it on the easiest difficulty.
Chapstick
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You can't change that stuff for anything other than versus. Still should go by pretty fast on easiest and IIRC the matches are 2 rounds instead of 3.
werewolfgold
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Theoretically, his position would indicate that he has to give orders and dictate plans of attacks and such among squadrons. Even if they don't show that.
If that Code Cronus game had ever come to fruition, I'm sure we would have some more visual data on things that Hayate does in his "off time". That's probably what he needs to boost his appeal somewhat.
Squadrons? There were 4 dudes, 1 of which was him, and another one who was not under his command, and another who was exiled. So he got to order around Ayane. OOOOOOO so impressive
Argentus
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*remembers cropdusting joke*
Hehehehehehehehehe....
I didn't know that Leon's favorite drink had a music video.
werewolfgold
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Was it really only the 4? The way everyone always talked about how this was a problem for the whole clan, I find it hard to believe that there wouldn't be anyone else but Hayate and Ayane (from the clan) going in to deal with it. I think there would've been generic mooks involved (who no one cares about).
Edit: From the DOA4 website.
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He can say whatever he wants. Doesn't change the fact that the only 4 ninjas there were Hayate, Hayabusa, Ayane and Kasumi.
So if anything, he told his ninja clan to come with him to attack DOATEC and they just went "Yeah, no. You're a lame ninja and poor leader. We'll just chill out at the clan village while you and your sister take out DOATEC."
FatalxInnocence
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I think he forgot Kasumi killed all his other ninjas in her DOA3 ending. Silly Hayate.
Seriously though, I swear there was a cutscene or 2 in DOA4 that showed other ninjas... like the smaller ones. Unless I'm confusing it with something in DOA3... It's been awhile since I've played either games.
There were in DOA3. I don't recall there being in DOA4, though.
werewolfgold
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According to whom? Just because they weren't in an ending or with Hayate and Ayane at the particular cutscene points doesn't mean they didn't exist.
You're trying much too hard. It's like you have a grudge or something. lol
FatalxInnocence
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This is true. Just because a spotlight wasn't on them doesn't mean they weren't there. Besides, it would have made the scenes less cool if our 4 ninjas were surrounded by little guys as opposed to taking on bosses, and peons by themselves.
That scene with Ayane & Hayate for instance, probably would have looked completely stupid if there was a dynasty warriors style battle happening around them. Same goes for Kasumi's solo battle with Alpha-152 in Helena's true ending.
If you really want to get tehcnical, you could argue there's a 50/50 chance there were other ninjas there.
But even if there were, they don't really seem to do anything amazing. Hayate's leadership is never demosntrated to us in an impressive fashion. So yes, you could make the argument: "Although it was never shown or referenced and at best ambiguously implied, Hayate's greatest achievement was commanding some random ninjas to do some stuff that we have no idea about that has no discernible impact on anything we do know about."
So, I'm still not exactly impressed.
I don't have to try at all to make Hayate look lame. TN has done an adequate job of that by themselves.
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