The DOA5U "Casual" thread. ^__^

[DestructionBomb]

Pretty much. which is why I doubt we're getting anymore VF characters as there isn't really any point

Sega developed the AM system to provide them with arcades thanks to the partnership. I doubt we will be getting any VF characters but don't be surprised if they do place them again. Like replacing those 4 for the next 4.

 

[Deleted member 473]

For business. Why wouldn't they put them in there.

The fact that they drew in VF characters is a sure sound of Sega's brand to be put in there. If there was any other case...Sega would of possibly said "Who in the hell is this company." and I refuse for DOA to be branded like that, as if it's some random cactus in a desert.

I mean yeah lol. But its like they didn't really benefit the hardcore DOA fans, because we don't really care for VF as we never needed their popularity because VF has no story whatsoever... aka not relatable.

 

[Russian-chiropractic19]

DOA adding VF was supposed to symbolize that it was becoming serious about being a fighting game which did beniffit the hard core players. Now it's hard to tell if they still think that way or if they're just using it to milk fans

They can add whoever the hell they want after they give us a new male character even if I don't like who they add I'll consider it a symbolic victory

 

[DestructionBomb]

I mean yeah lol. But its like they didn't really benefit the hardcore DOA fans, because we don't really care for VF as we never neede their popularity because VF has no story whatsoever... aka not relatable.

They did benefit from it. They "actually managed" to get Sega to get a partnership with them.

"We" is very small portion to it. This opened up a path for TN to actually hit the business of getting proper management with other companies. The "We" could mean anything...The "We" could be referring to the players who only "dislike" them. Some of the people don't care if they joined or not. Most rants are extremely odd.

VF "had" a story, it was stuck on a plot hole where they are focusing on the fighting game mechanics build, It is popular because it's the god father of 3D fighting games, TN wanted to draw new people into the game and I gotta say...it worked+Inclusion of core fighters.

 

[ItasumiJinsei]

I've always believed Hayate was the weakest. I mean, he's won one significant fight in the series (Ein vs Kasumi, DOA2)... except it was his Ein persona fighting his sister, who would not have cut loose on him.

That's it. Sure, he also runs the Mugen Tenshin now, but Kasumi was also eligible for the job.

What Hayate needs to do now is actually win a major fight. Even if it's against Nyew-Tengu.

I find it so funny 95% think Hayate is the weakest Ninja. DOA2-Hayate and Ryu fight a brainwashed Ayane and Kasumi Alpha and win. This means Hayate defeated one of them. DOA3-Hayate fights on par with Ryu until Ayane interrupts. DOA5-Hayate and Ayane fight the powered up Alpha clone and are unable to kill it. Notice how Hayate is at least standing on two feet while Ayane is on her knees. Hayate is obviously better than Ayane and Momiji. Momiji is the weakest Ninja, she has no where near as much experience as the others.

 

[Deleted member 473]

DOA adding VF was supposed to symbolize that it was becoming serious about being a fighting game which did beniffit the hard core players. Now it's hard to tell if they still think that way or if they're just using it to milk fans

Thats an excuse. TN could have did that without VF. And for the record VF isn't any more serious than DOA is.

I personally never wanted the fighting mechanics to be taken so seriously before now because back then I never cared that much about it.. I enjoyed DOA for the most part because it was fun I was starting to relate to the characters, now it kinda staring to get too serious (even though I enjoy the balancing now, still doesn't equate to shafting your characters ). This is another reason why most of the Tekken community left after 5 because 6 was getting ridiculous. (juggles, bounds whatever the f-- you want to call it.)
DOA or should I say TN, never focused on having the characters so balanced until the competitive community started to have a voice after Itagaki left, therefore balancing became first and character development was thrown off to the side. So the conclusion that TN came up with for including VF? is because they are trying to please the competitive community this is the cold truth... I didn't want to say it but I had to.

Sorry if I offend anyone here, nothing personal.



btw..

Spoiler

 

[ItasumiJinsei]

Hayate getting beat by Rig was pure PIS and y'all know it. it's in the same vein as Grey Fox getting beat by snake in MGS1

Lose to Rig? Hayate had Rig right where he wanted him and was simply caught in the trap Rig set up. Rig never expected to beat him, he just wanted to make him tired so he would get caught in the trap. The same thing would have happened if Hayate let Ayane fight Rig.

 

[Argentus]

Ugh. Juggles sucking all the fun out of it again...

Playing toomuch DOA after being away for so many months lol.


Though on the other hand, I've learned to keep my phone nearby to give me something to do while waiting around for juggles to finish so I don't get as irritated lol.

 

[jjinkou2]

I made a brand new thread about this poll
http://www.freestepdodge.com/threads/poll-game-characters-enjoyability.4592/#post-190994

 

[Jaguar360]

I don't care if this stopped pages ago. I wanna do the list thingy too.
Akira - 1
Alpha-152 - 5
Ayane - 4
Bass - 3
Bayman - 4
Brad - 2
Christie - 2
Ein - 4
Eliot - 2
Gen Fu - 2
Jacky - 2
Jahn Lee - 3
Kasumi - 3
Kokoro - 2
Hayabusa - 5
Hayate - 5
Helena - 2
Hitomi - 3
La Mariposa - 3
Leon - 5
Leifang - 2
Mila - 3
Momiji - 3
Pai - 3
Rachel - 2
Rig - 4
Sarah - 2
Tina - 3
Zack - 3

Characters I don't have:
Marie Rose - 3
Phase 4 - 4
Nyotengu - 4
EDIT: Sorry guys, I'll take it to the other thread

 

[ItasumiJinsei]

Out of probably all the ninjas + Rachel, Hayate seems to have the least achievements canonically (being the 18th leader of the clan doesn't do much imo).

Wrong. Rachel hasn't done much at all. In NG1 she just gets exposed consistently, NG2 I'll give it to her that she bopped Marbus but compared to Hayate she hasn't done more. Momiji hasn't done much either.

 

[DestructionBomb]

Thats an excuse. TN could have did that without VF. And for the record VF isn't any more serious than DOA is.

I personally never wanted the fighting mechanics to be taken so seriously before now because back then I never cared that much about it.. I enjoyed DOA for the most part because it was fun I was starting to relate to the characters, now it kinda staring to get too serious (even though I enjoy the balancing now, still doesn't equate to shafting your characters ). This is another reason why most of the Tekken community left after 5 because 6 was getting ridiculous. (juggles, bounds whatever the f-- you want to call it.)
DOA or should I say TN, never focused on having the characters so balanced until the competitive community started to have a voice after Itagaki left, therefore balancing became first and character development was thrown off to the side. So the conclusion that TN came up with for including VF? is because they are trying to please the competitive community this is the cold truth... I didn't want to say it but I had to.

Sorry if I offend anyone here, nothing personal.



btw..

Spoiler

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You are not offending anyone. Throwing VF characters because of game mechanics or competitive scene was simply not the reason for their appearance. It's business...just like that, business. This means that Sega's partnership should broaden DOA's franchise into a much larger audience. Arcades...promotions..you name it.

No offense to you blaze, but a little research is needed before you make assumptions like that. It's a good thing they partnered with Sega, adding the characters within the game is just putting strawberry on top of a cake to draw in other crowds from a different game.

I get the strongest feeling people dislikes those silly VF characters is because either 1) They don't know how to deal with them due to majority of the players playing online dealing with the delays so they automatically blame a VF character without going into actual detail. 2) They are lazy and need something to rant to.

I hate that chick Sarah too...as she is one of the backbones of the online. But I expect myself to hit the lab and punish her properly instead of blindly running into the fray. If you are getting torn up by the so called character, blame the online...not the character.

Again, not bashing on you or anything man.

 

[Argentus]

You are not offending anyone. Throwing VF characters because of game mechanics or competitive scene was simply not the reason for their appearance. It's business...just like that, business. This means that Sega's partnership should broaden DOA's franchise into a much larger audience. Arcades...promotions..you name it.

No offense to you blaze, but a little research is needed before you make assumptions like that. It's a good thing they partnered with Sega, adding the characters within the game is just putting strawberry on top of a cake to draw in other crowds from a different game.

I get the strongest feeling people dislikes those silly VF characters is because either 1) They don't know how to deal with them due to majority of the players playing online dealing with the delays so they automatically blame a VF character without going into actual detail. 2) They are lazy and need something to rant to.

I hate that chick Sarah too...as she is one of the backbones of the online. But I expect myself to hit the lab and punish her properly instead of blindly running into the fray. If you are getting torn up by the so called character, blame the online...not the character.

Again, not bashing on you or anything.

...sure you quoted the right post?

 

[Deleted member 473]

You are not offending anyone. Throwing VF characters because of game mechanics or competitive scene was simply not the reason for their appearance. It's business...just like that, business. This means that Sega's partnership should broaden DOA's franchise into a much larger audience. Arcades...promotions..you name it.

No offense to you blaze, but a little research is needed before you make assumptions like that. It's a good thing they partnered with Sega, adding the characters within the game is just putting strawberry on top of a cake to draw in other crowds from a different game.

I get the strongest feeling people dislikes those silly VF characters is because either 1) They don't know how to deal with them due to majority of the players playing online dealing with the delays so they automatically blame a VF character without going into actual detail. 2) They are lazy and need something to rant to.

I hate that chick Sarah too...as she is one of the backbones of the online. But I expect myself to hit the lab and punish her properly instead of blindly running into the fray. If you are getting torn up by the so called character, blame the online...not the character.

Again, not bashing on you or anything.

Honestly I just wish all that competitive stuff comes AFTER you finish YOUR characters lol

 

[DestructionBomb]

...sure you quoted the right post?

I did, it says blazeincarnated.

 

[Argentus]

I did, it says blazeincarnated.

Sounds like you are talking about two different things. He mentioned vf then went in about how he didn't like how everything is taken way too seriously now that DOA is touted as competitive, then you said...blame the online for Sarah?

Honestly I just wish all that competitive stuff comes AFTER you finish YOUR characters lol

Competitive angle should come after everything else. Game first, competition last.

 

[Deleted member 473]

THIS IS WHAT ZACK NEEDS!

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[DestructionBomb]

Sounds like you are talking about two different things. He mentioned vf then went in about how he didn't like how everything is taken way too seriously now that DOA is touted as competitive, then you said...blame the online for Sarah?


Competitive angle should come after everything else. Game first, competition last.

Ok, now you are misunderstanding me. All my posts were directed to blazeincarnated with the exception of 1 which is towards Russian. He quoted Russian but I answered him.

For the Sarah part, It was towards all the ones who dislike Sarah because I also dislike her. But the actual point is within VF characters itself, not just Sarah. I was merely pointing out a fact that most rants usually blame a character overall but not actually going into detail as to why they are giving them a problem.

I dislike Sarah "only" for online. Other people have reasons..but most reasons is plainly obvious that they do not go into the lab and see the issue at hand. The thing is...people need something to rant to but it's more believable if it's a legitimate reason. For me, myself & I. I only dislike sarah for that particular reason, I can't react to certain lows whenever I play her, It isn't the character

Example : God I hate leon and the home stage. They need to take this guy out the game! (Again, they blame the character when clearly...environments is playing the role of providing damage to Leon, technically not Leon's fault.)

Example: God I hate the VF characters, They need to be out of my game! (Again, people are either not familiar with the match up or just down right blame a character simply because they are from another game.)

 

[Chapstick]

So you'd rather have a game with fully developed interesting character personalities that plays poorly and unfairly than one with okay characters that plays really well?

 

[Chapstick]

None of them. I want a character that does not have a rant on both sides of the coin.

I'm not talking about you, I should have quoted Blaze/Argentus.