honestly not digging that Dragonov outfit. its the full masked combat suit i usually love, but it doesn't look implemented very well
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David Gregg
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They better be I never got to play Eliza since I don't have a PS3. T_T
Eliza never. Jaycee, around 50% chance of her retaining her tag2 movelist but not the whole gimmick.
EnvyDesyre
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After playing the game very extensively/mastering my character I have to say I like Tekken but I'm gonna be completely honest. I hated Trash Tournament 2 & was highly disappointed when I saw the gameplay for 7. Nothing changed really. I was expecting a big leap like from T2 to T3. But it's the same bullshit. I think the characters should've aged (at least 10-20 years to add life to them). And there's no way Xiaoyu is still in high school. I'm not even excited about the direction they're going in catering the game towards offense by nerfing movement (KBD). The Power Crush ruins the whole meta. If they don't remove it I'm not even gonna take this game seriously anymore. I think the one thing they should do is adjust the crush system. Or better yet take it out. It's really fucked up now because it makes things random. There should be no reason a low poke can easily be crushed by a b+3 with Asuka or I need massive plus frames just to lock you down with lows that do no damage anyway. The risk reward doesn't seem right to me. It's broken. And the hopkick becomes a priority so for them to put in the Power Crush is silly. You already have Lili who crushes everything. Why add to it by introducing shit mechanics? Just yesterday I wavedashed into cd+3 with Jin & my friend crushed it with Matterwhore by completely ducking under the MID. I just said "wow". Anyway, I haven't been hyped for a game since KOF XIII & that's really saying alot. I would say that's the best FG ever made. You'd be a fool not to try it out. But regarding T7, I'll just see what happens. Will it be better than DR? Hell no, but it's nice to see they're getting rid of the stupid Tag system. Everything is controlled better with 1v1. That's all I have to say. If you wanna discuss/throw opinions I'd be glad to.
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Yurlungur
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Um, asides from the new armored attacks and supers they did do quite a bit, the nerfed the oki game and increased the walk speeds, changed what "bounds" (which now i don't really like because everyone seems to have a wall carry now) and possibly like every new game each character gets 3 new moves added to the list.
no, honestly no maybe because you play the newer character but i don't really want lee to be 70 and the willam sisters to be around in their 50s and god knows how old heihachi will be. Lili around this time along with asuka should be in their twenties.
The girl is chasing the d too much to ever graduate, go look at her marks
Actually, the armored attacks are defensive measures and they do have an answer to beat them but i do agree with you that it does make the game ugly. People need to find answers to deal with certain things instead of having a spammable move at lower levels. Still you need to remember this is all in the beta.
Honestly, i really loathe hopkicks sometimes because it's just really fraudulent. I faced players who would literally just spam hopkick whenever i would start pressure so it got to a point where i would do something that's like -2 and then jab to catch them and combo their ass after. If it really makes them want to stop spamming hopkick i'm all for it then.
Also isn't jin's cd+3 really seeable? Why wouldn't he matterhorn? Matterhorn is an amazing move. It's also -18 which is fair for a dp like move.
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Am I the only one that thinks that if Eddy were to make it in Tekken 7 (Which is highly likely), that wishes that his model would be based off of his Tekken 6 model and not his 40-year-old TTT2 model.
TTT2
T6 (Not an in game photo like TTT2's but you know what I'm getting at)
Also, I hope that his DB+4 or his 3,4 gets that new combo mechanic introduced with it. If his UF,1+2 or his F,3+4 got a bound on hit, that'd be really cool for combo starters. For his F,3+4 - Since the second hit is guaranteed on first kick hit, the first kick would force you to crouch, and the guaranteed second kick would be the one that makes you bound.
His Power Crush should be his FF+4 or even his Mirage (DF+3+4) That'd be nice.
P.S. Any news on Jin? And Hwoarang looks even better than he's ever been gameplay wise.
Also, I hope that his DB+4 or his 3,4 gets that new combo mechanic introduced with it. If his UF,1+2 or his F,3+4 got a bound on hit, that'd be really cool for combo starters. For his F,3+4 - Since the second hit is guaranteed on first kick hit, the first kick would force you to crouch, and the guaranteed second kick would be the one that makes you bound.
His Power Crush should be his FF+4 or even his Mirage (DF+3+4) That'd be nice.
P.S. Any news on Jin? And Hwoarang looks even better than he's ever been gameplay wise.
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EnvyDesyre
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"Um, asides from the new armored attacks and supers they did do quite a bit, the nerfed the oki game and increased the walk speeds, changed what "bounds" (which now i don't really like because everyone seems to have a wall carry now) and possibly like every new game each character gets 3 new moves added to the list."
But characters will still benefit without bound because of long wall carries. Bruce, Leo, Nina, Miguel, Lee, Dragunov, Lili to name a few. They nerfed Oki because people cry & can't get up. Rage Arts don't bother me that much. It's the Power Crushing.
Here's why it should go..
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"no, honestly no maybe because you play the newer character but i don't really want lee to be 70 and the willam sisters to be around in their 50s and god knows how old heihachi will be. Lili around this time along with asuka should be in their twenties."
I play Jin but I use other characters. But he is the only reason I'm still playing the damn game. Lots of responsibility playing him & I've explored so much tech it's ridiculous I don't see anyone else using it. But in regards to story it should have been a time leap.
"The girl is chasing the d too much to ever graduate, go look at her marks"
No comment..
"Actually, the armored attacks are defensive measures and they do have an answer to beat them but i do agree with you that it does make the game ugly. People need to find answers to deal with certain things instead of having a spammable move at lower levels. Still you need to remember this is all in the beta."
I agree, it's just a beta. But it's still good to have constructive criticism. Have you read the review on LUYG site? The person said not all Power Crushes are punishable. That's why I think they should be gone.
"Honestly, i really loathe hopkicks sometimes because it's just really fraudulent. I faced players who would literally just spam hopkick whenever i would start pressure so it got to a point where i would do something that's like -2 and then jab to catch them and combo their ass after. If it really makes them want to stop spamming hopkick i'm all for it then."
Exactly the reason why I backdash each start of the round. Not risking a low poke or a jab to get crushed with hopkick. Fuck that. Hopkick needs to be more punishable too.
"Also isn't jin's cd+3 really seeable? Why wouldn't he matterhorn? Matterhorn is an amazing move. It's also -18 which is fair for a dp like move."
Yeah, but cd+3 is i16. Matterwhore is i17. That's a one frame difference which also means it should have lost to cd+3 because we did both moves simultaneously so why did she still duck under the move & crush it? Mid crushes should not exist because it fucks up the neutral game. Nina ss+2 crushes mids too. My friend also plays her, I try to lock him down with 2,1 but it gets crushed so I have to use standing 4 instead. Also, played a match against a Armor King player. Round starts, what's he do? db+3. What do I do? df+1. What happened? It got crushed & he gets a combo LOL. Why? Because the hitboxes make no sense. That's the problem I have with Tekken. The crushing. I mean, what's the point of a MID if it's not gonna stay true to it's properties & get crushed with hopkick, sweeps, etc. It's stupid.
But characters will still benefit without bound because of long wall carries. Bruce, Leo, Nina, Miguel, Lee, Dragunov, Lili to name a few. They nerfed Oki because people cry & can't get up. Rage Arts don't bother me that much. It's the Power Crushing.
Here's why it should go..
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"no, honestly no maybe because you play the newer character but i don't really want lee to be 70 and the willam sisters to be around in their 50s and god knows how old heihachi will be. Lili around this time along with asuka should be in their twenties."
I play Jin but I use other characters. But he is the only reason I'm still playing the damn game. Lots of responsibility playing him & I've explored so much tech it's ridiculous I don't see anyone else using it. But in regards to story it should have been a time leap.
"The girl is chasing the d too much to ever graduate, go look at her marks"
No comment..
"Actually, the armored attacks are defensive measures and they do have an answer to beat them but i do agree with you that it does make the game ugly. People need to find answers to deal with certain things instead of having a spammable move at lower levels. Still you need to remember this is all in the beta."
I agree, it's just a beta. But it's still good to have constructive criticism. Have you read the review on LUYG site? The person said not all Power Crushes are punishable. That's why I think they should be gone.
"Honestly, i really loathe hopkicks sometimes because it's just really fraudulent. I faced players who would literally just spam hopkick whenever i would start pressure so it got to a point where i would do something that's like -2 and then jab to catch them and combo their ass after. If it really makes them want to stop spamming hopkick i'm all for it then."
Exactly the reason why I backdash each start of the round. Not risking a low poke or a jab to get crushed with hopkick. Fuck that. Hopkick needs to be more punishable too.
"Also isn't jin's cd+3 really seeable? Why wouldn't he matterhorn? Matterhorn is an amazing move. It's also -18 which is fair for a dp like move."
Yeah, but cd+3 is i16. Matterwhore is i17. That's a one frame difference which also means it should have lost to cd+3 because we did both moves simultaneously so why did she still duck under the move & crush it? Mid crushes should not exist because it fucks up the neutral game. Nina ss+2 crushes mids too. My friend also plays her, I try to lock him down with 2,1 but it gets crushed so I have to use standing 4 instead. Also, played a match against a Armor King player. Round starts, what's he do? db+3. What do I do? df+1. What happened? It got crushed & he gets a combo LOL. Why? Because the hitboxes make no sense. That's the problem I have with Tekken. The crushing. I mean, what's the point of a MID if it's not gonna stay true to it's properties & get crushed with hopkick, sweeps, etc. It's stupid.
David Gregg
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EnvyDesyre
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He's more iconic than most of the cast. I don't have any hopes of him making it in. Plus, I wanna see FightingGM dominate again.Stop teasing they haven't revealed him for T7...
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David Gregg
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EnvyDesyre
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Wait did you mean hopes or doubts?And yes FightingGM has an incredible Lee.
Yeah, he does. My favorite match was during Savage Saturdays, when he raped Elite & his Jun/Crushka team.
I meant doubts.
AsheMann21
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Hey, new Tekken player here! I decided to give Revolution another chance.
But coming over from DOA is just so overwhelming T_T
But coming over from DOA is just so overwhelming T_T
Honestly, when I got Tekken Tag 2 for Christmas, I stopped playing Revolution all together.Hey, new Tekken player here! I decided to give Revolution another chance.
But coming over from DOA is just so overwhelming T_T
considering they seem to be taking the mechanics from Revolution that might have been a mistake.
Radiance
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Nothing was wrong with TR for me, just too many scrubs were playing it vs people who were vets and knew how to play Tekken. Beginners would pick Kazuya and play Tekken like it was Street Fighter. Of course they got bodied by people who knew how to play lol.