Seriously? How is she anything even close to overpowered?
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KingGhidorah
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She's not a big deal, so what I think should happen is people's intelligence should get some major buffing.
Forgot to add this; Fuck Sarah. That is all. >_>
Forgot to add this; Fuck Sarah. That is all. >_>
The Martian
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Hayabusa still gives me more trouble than Rachel has even ever come close to.
KingGhidorah
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I'd rather deal with him over Sarah any day. I always just wanna put my head through a desk when I face her, ugh.
She plays like a 2D grappler. I don't think she's that bad (as in broken), but she is stronger than most, if not all, of the cast. Easier, too.
His best tool (4PK) is gone. In it's place is a plethora of flashy, bullshitty moves and super Izuna-buffs.
Stand and fuzzy-guard (to avoid a throw), and block. His string mix-ups won't surprise you with anything scary anymore, unless you're somehow intimidated by ongyoin. Throw punish. At range, walk backward/up and down to avoid teleport BS. His range stuff is notorious for not tracking.
And unless you're a mega-sloth character, he's not too fast, so you can typically out-poke him (say, at match-start). Just don't be predictable (*cough izuna holds *cough*)
Sarah is... iaghisagodagfg
SilverForte
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And watch out for that 666p Martian, it's an excellent hayabusa move now.
99% of Hayabusa's good moves are mid punches.
SilverForte
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99% of Hayabusa's good moves are mid punches.
Lol true, that's what the izuna is for.
WINBACK
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ALL HAYABUSA SHIT ASIDE...
About all of these guaranteed Stomp + Force Tech set-ups Rachel has, can someone give me an example of one that 100% combos and force techs? Because I've only seen a few set-ups, but the force-tech can be avoided by just mashing 4H (Back + Guard).
Help plz. Thx
About all of these guaranteed Stomp + Force Tech set-ups Rachel has, can someone give me an example of one that 100% combos and force techs? Because I've only seen a few set-ups, but the force-tech can be avoided by just mashing 4H (Back + Guard).
Help plz. Thx
She doesn't get guaranteed stomp from anything outside of raw 6KP.
WINBACK
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Would you mind going to training and have the dummy Rachel do the 6KP into the stomp, and see if you avoid the force tech by just mashing 4G? The earlier you mash it, the better.
Oh, you're right, that's techable too. I must be thinking of some other setup.
EDIT: Yeah, I was thinking 9K into stomp.
EDIT: Yeah, I was thinking 9K into stomp.
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WINBACK
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You mean do a raw 9K into the stomp?
That doesn't guarantee the force-tech. Mash G before she does the stomp, and once she stomps you, the kick for the force-tech whiffs.
Could you test this on your end to double-confirm?
Works fine. Stomp earlier. You should be stomping before the other guy even lands. I'm testing in Rachel mirrors. Requires a bit of timing.
EDIT: You're positive regardless, though, so lol.
EDIT: You're positive regardless, though, so lol.
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WINBACK
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Okay, I tried that. Here's what happens:
After Rachel's 9K hits me, I mash 4G (while still in the air and the dummy is going for the Stomp), one of two things happens depending on the timing that Rachel does the stomp:
1.) I Tech Roll backwards, and avoid the stomp entirely.
2.) The stomp connects (this takes strict timing on Rachel's part), but the 2nd part, the kick that force-techs, whiffs.
So I wanted to know if you tried this yourself and got the same results. I picked Hayabusa and recorded Rachel doing your 9K into Stomp set-up with different timings, and got the above.
It's weight specific. Super heavy weights only.
EDIT: Oh, I see what you're saying. That's funny. The actual kick whiffs.
EDIT: Oh, I see what you're saying. That's funny. The actual kick whiffs.
WINBACK
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It should work anywhere, not just by a wall.
Try the set-up and 4G thing like we're talking about and see if that causes it for you.
You can't tech it, actually, and the frame advantage is still there, so it's more funny than a real issue. They're still forced up and you're still at like +10.
EDIT: You can't tech it if the other guy is super heavy weight, that is. It might be possible on other weights, but it probably requires a lot harder timing.
EDIT: You can't tech it if the other guy is super heavy weight, that is. It might be possible on other weights, but it probably requires a lot harder timing.