TakedaZX
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Jeez. That's gunna be delightful... -.-
So then, what you're telling me... is Hayate lost his best poke?
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So then, what you're telling me... is Hayate lost his best poke?
Allan Paris
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Apparently.
Happy hunting with it though. It launches now and not a knockdown anymore as well.
Happy hunting with it though. It launches now and not a knockdown anymore as well.
TakedaZX
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I wanna see how it works out for me online, the computer is too easy to punish. I hope there's a lot of people on too.
Sir Ellibear
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Probably general knowledge, but gonna throw it out in the thread just in case. Raijin ceiling combos gives some nice damage. Again, sorry if this has been mentioned before.
Tested on Helena / Jan Lee:
Raijin Launch -
- [Good for finding walls from open spaces]
Raijin Launch - - - [Combo when next to walls]
Also been trying to put the stance mix-up into play on wake up, I usually plant a few grabs before attempting the launch variations as they're unsafe. I feel these may be used in moderation in high level play, time will tell.
Tested on Helena / Jan Lee:
Raijin Launch -
- [Good for finding walls from open spaces]Raijin Launch -
- - [Combo when next to walls]Also been trying to put the stance mix-up into play on wake up, I usually plant a few grabs before attempting the launch variations as they're unsafe. I feel these may be used in moderation in high level play, time will tell.
TakedaZX
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Yea. I still feel like 1kp_1kk was a vital part of his style, as well as 4F+K. It's ok as a launcher, but even still that was great for baiting whiffs, I remember that shit. Of course I was wet behind the ears still back then and mimicking Perfect Legend from in his fight against Master in the WCG.Probably general knowledge, but gonna throw it out in the thread just in case. Raijin ceiling combos gives some nice damage. Again, sorry if this has been mentioned before.
Tested on Helena / Jan Lee:
Raijin Launch -
Raijin Launch -
Also been trying to put the stance mix-up into play on wake up, I usually plant a few grabs before attempting the launch variations as they're unsafe. I feel these may be used in moderation in high level play, time will tell.
Right now, Hayate isn't someone you can just pick up and play.There is some work to be done when coming in as him in this game, you need a good mind set to play the stun game or put them on the ground constantly... I personally am finding it easier to play Hitomi at this point because she steps back into Ein's style of play, being a bit weaker but also having more mixups available, and i' love that 8pk6p_ is now an option.
Sir Ellibear
New Member
Been adding this into my stun game lately, seems to cause a sit down stun for a guranteed launch. Seen a few unintentional slow escapes(?) from the sitdown stun which makes me question if the critical hit is guranteed with enough slow escaping. Even so, adding a launcher should still work in time.
As for general play, I'm using these a fair bit off of 1 stun / counter hit:
- As for critical burst follow ups, I'm mainly using these two juggles / options (assumes you are at stun threshold with critical burst):
Wind Dash Uppercut -
[Doesn't work next to walls] - - [Works next to walls]Power Blow
The only other sit down stun I've found is from Back Turned mid-kick. Gonna do some more work on his options in the lab. I have no capture card but may try and do a quick video via phone, quality wouldn't be great though. I'll have a gander in a few days.
LondonLust
Active Member
Since I'm so lazy, can anyone tell me Hayate's sit-down stuns?
Sir Ellibear
New Member
Well I mentioned the ones I know of in my post, but here's a repost...
[Second hit]
[Back turned, lead into via ]
[Second hit] [Back turned, lead into via ]
Perfect Legend
Active Member
Hayate's full crouched 3p is his best mid attack in this game now since they basically took everything else away. 33k is good too as well as 6pk
Madian
Active Member
Any particular reason you favor [3]p over 66p?
66p has slightly more range, is 2 frames faster and always grants you a critical stun on hit. It's also the same frame wise on block.
Perfect Legend
Active Member
2nd hit is tracking move and its a lift stun but its harder to do sigh
TakedaZX
Well-Known Member
Do you EWGF it out. I use 623P to get instant hold 3 moves. It started with Eliot for his bnb combos off of CH launches or 236T. It works out the same for Hayate. I just wanna know if I'm alone in this.
Decided to play Hayate as my sub character. Any idea on how his Wind Dash is "suppose" to be applied mid-match? I've somewhat been using it after knockdowns with the punch (guard break), throw and dash cancel followups.
I do like his new 1K, true hi crush and stuns on counter and hi counter and is safe on block.
I do like his new 1K, true hi crush and stuns on counter and hi counter and is safe on block.
Perfect Legend
Active Member
1k is -10 on block. Definitely not safe
Just checked, my mistake. Got it mixed up with something else.
Perfect Legend
Active Member
Alright I think Hayate is godlike now just have to use different attacks. I will try to make a tutorial video demonstrating. Once I figure out how to add sound
Madian
Active Member
I'm curious to see what you've found with him.
From my own R&D he's easily one of the safer characters in the game especially at long range.
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MajesticBlue
Active Member
4KK is the new 4F+K lol. Shame you can be jabbed out of it. At least you have 4k6k for jabbers.
TakedaZX
Well-Known Member
I suppose so. It might be -5 and leave you at BT, but in all honesty, it's no where near as good since it's so slow. I use it for trolling really after I beat someone, or after I get a Raijin Launch/8k CH/HCH into 3H+K. The reason I do this is because when you hit someone in the air with 3H+K, it ground bounces. Unfortunately the bounce is too low for any follow ups, but if they don't tech roll you can hit them with the second hit of 4kK. Same goes for 1p in it's place. I think it force techs eventually...