DOA6 Story Discussion

[Akumasama]

We should've expected this given how the game was "rushed". Since they mantained an overall pretty high quality in the other parts of the game, which arguably matter even more, it was obvious they would've had to find a compromise elsewhere.

I think the story is one of such compromises. For the most part is pretty disappointing and feels unepic compared to DoA5 which overall was pretty good I would say.
Also the dreaded menu is sooooo incredibly confusing. Who even thought about that ><

 

[KwonJigglypuff]

Also the dreaded menu is sooooo incredibly confusing. Who even thought about that ><

At first I thought it was confusing too. Then I also realized the way it is organized is perfect to add DLC scenes on all these blanks.
I mean, Helena's timeline is like "blank blank blank blank blank chapter 5 blank blank"..

 

[Akumasama]

At first I thought it was confusing too. Then I also realized the way it is organized is perfect to add DLC scenes on all these blanks.

Yeah I had the same thoughts... let's see what happens with the DLCs.
Bet one Season Pass won't add Characters but will add episodes to the story lol

At this point they can contain the damage but I doubt they can do a complete recovery.
I dunno it's a shame, loved the DoA5 story, but then again story is something I play once or twice, and then 99% of the time it's about the game engine itself in the end.

 

[KwonJigglypuff]

Yeah I had the same thoughts... let's see what happens with the DLCs.
Bet one Season Pass won't add Characters but will add episodes to the story lol

At this point they can contain the damage but I doubt they can do a complete recovery.
I dunno it's a shame, loved the DoA5 story, but then again story is something I play once or twice, and then 99% of the time it's about the game engine itself in the end.

Yes. The story is simply here to add some unique atmosphere and to try to make some characters more appealing. That's why, despite having a solid fighting style, a character like Hitomi (whose personality and goals are meh) will never appeal to me as much as Helena.. I still lIke her but she is my least favourite girl. I can't remember any scene since DOA3 where I was like "wow, this character is so cool!".

 

[P2p1mbs]

My biggest disappointment for the story:

Spoiler

Jann is STILL ALIVE

Also:

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I am not paying attention to DOAX3 so how does that game introduce the Marie with Honoka? Marie and Honoka's first meeting is clearly shown in the early chapters of 6

Also also:

Spoiler: About the final fight

Who did you use to kill Raidou with? I used Ayane.

 

[Derock]

I do agree 6 storyline was not only lacking but confusing as hell. Most of the stuff wouldn't unlock until you meet a certain character or progress the main storyline with the ninjas. The chart was indeed awkward, switching to the actual view, it looks like there was supposed to be more scenes.

Spoiler: DOA6 Story

I assumed Diego actually won the tournament because he wasn't completely knocked out. Zack should had waited a few more minutes before actually declaring the winner.

I really don't like the idea of reviving Maria, unless she knows Martial Arts like her daughter. If that's the case, other minor characters might be revived as well. For some reason, this plot felt like it was a Naruto-type situation with the Edo-Tensei crap. Oh, and M.I.S.T. will revive Raidou again, watch.
And then the Trivia section, all of it are omakes to me, especially Nyotengu's.

 

[zoo]

Also:

Spoiler

I am not paying attention to DOAX3 so how does that game introduce the Marie with Honoka? Marie and Honoka's first meeting is clearly shown in the early chapters of 6

I only maybe consider the first xtreme canon since it had story emphasis. I guess xtreme 3 could happen after 6 if you wanna go that far with it but it's easier to just believe xtreme isn't canon. Or ya know Kasumi, Helena, Nyotengu and Honoka really just enjoy pole dancing in their free time

 

[Xhominid The Demon Within]

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I am not paying attention to DOAX3 so how does that game introduce the Marie with Honoka? Marie and Honoka's first meeting is clearly shown in the early chapters of 6

I'll explain this part:

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DOA5LR when it introduced these characters... had a weird way of including all of the future interactions in other when they fight against each other or in Tag Mode(mostly tag mode), which is where we got most of their character from to begin with since DOA5 didn't have or make a story section for them.

DOAXtreme 3 went further with this because, again, they had no real story or anything else to draw from so they used that game to further build upon their personalities.

DOA5 had Marie and Honoka be friends well before we find out in DOA6 Marie only pretended to be her friend to protect her as Helena wanted her to(this also was in DOA5 as no one believed that she was Helena's maid until DOAX3 and Last Round cemented that she's Helena's new Maid and loyal to a fault). DOA5 is also where we even knew Honoka had tidings with Raidou and Ayane and even had the theory and ultimately confirmation that she's family. The only character that was really fleshed out in Last Round was Nyotengu and Xtreme 3 worked on that as well.

 

[Dr PaC]

My biggest disappointment for the story:

Spoiler

Jann is STILL ALIVE

Also:

Spoiler

I am not paying attention to DOAX3 so how does that game introduce the Marie with Honoka? Marie and Honoka's first meeting is clearly shown in the early chapters of 6

Also also:

Spoiler: About the final fight

Who did you use to kill Raidou with? I used Ayane.

My man Hayate was the default pick if you wait for the game to pick for you. Tells me he finally got a win under his belt in canon! Its about time

 

[HeadNinjaDog]

Does story mode unlock anything? I'm still livid over Quest and various fight modes unlocking minuscule amounts of stuff. I can't complete anything past Hard level and can't pull off all requirements to complete a quest.

 

[DOAfanforever]

My man Hayate was the default pick if you wait for the game to pick for you. Tells me he finally got a win under his belt in canon! Its about time

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'm afraid Hayate did NOT beat Raidou alone. It was all 3 of them working as a team that defeated Raidou.

Think about it, after the battle was over, we see a scene where all 3 of them are walking away, and before Kasumi teleports away, we see her face bruised, and her clothes torn up. She didn't get those injuries from Nico or possessed Ayane, so how did she get those injuries if she didn't fight Raidou?

They all fought against him simultaneously. Working as a team to take down Raidou once and for all. THAT's canon. Sorry buddy. If you don't believe me, then just simply look up on DOA 6 fandom.

 

[Dr PaC]

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'm afraid Hayate did NOT beat Raidou alone. It was all 3 of them working as a team that defeated Raidou.

Think about it, after the battle was over, we see a scene where all 3 of them are walking away, and before Kasumi teleports away, we see her face bruised, and her clothes torn up. She didn't get those injuries from Nico or possessed Ayane, so how did she get those injuries if she didn't fight Raidou?

They all fought against him simultaneously. Working as a team to take down Raidou once and for all. THAT's canon. Sorry buddy. If you don't believe me, then just simply look up on DOA 6 fandom.

Even still, if it was a team win, that can mean they all are on the same level. Hayate is finally over the Epsilon thing that was holding him back from his full potential, he sparred with Ryu and he told him he got better, and still the fact that the game defaults to Hayate to fight Raidou implies it was his win. I understand that Hayate will never be above Kasumi or Ryu, but the fact that he finally wasn't saved by his little sisters again or that he didnt have to play damsel in distress again makes me happy as a Hayate fan.

 

[zoo]

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just occurred to me Hayate and Hitomi never met, think that's a series first

 

[Dr PaC]

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just occurred to me Hayate and Hitomi never met, think that's a series first

I think she did like a shoutout to Ein when she was looking at the statues and was thinking about him, but yea, they totally didnt see each other this time around. Le sigh

 

[deathofaninja]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1104643206396825600

It drives me nuts when people say Ayane won DOA3. Does she have the better narrative? Yes! But she did not win the tournament.

 

[DOAfanforever]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1104643206396825600

It drives me nuts when people say Ayane won DOA3. Does she have the better narrative? Yes! But she did not win the tournament.

That's because she did. It was AYANE who fought Genra in his Omega form in DOA 3. NOT ZACK.
It's practically the same as Ryu fighting The Tengu boss in DOA 2, and people say he won that tournament. Whoever beats the final boss in the tournament is the winner of the said tournament. That's how it goes.

Also, look here: https://deadoralive.fandom.com/wiki/Zack

Go to the Third DOA tournament and read there.

 

[DOAfanforever]

Even still, if it was a team win, that can mean they all are on the same level. Hayate is finally over the Epsilon thing that was holding him back from his full potential, he sparred with Ryu and he told him he got better, and still the fact that the game defaults to Hayate to fight Raidou implies it was his win. I understand that Hayate will never be above Kasumi or Ryu, but the fact that he finally wasn't saved by his little sisters again or that he didnt have to play damsel in distress again makes me happy as a Hayate fan.

I agree with you there. I'm not a Hayate fan, but it's good to finally see him doing something while everyone else are the centers of attention. All these years, people always said Hayate was useless, worthless, a waste of space, but maybe now this will cause the fans to look at him with even just a little bit of respect. Lets hope this was NOT the last we see Hayate stepping up.

 

[Dr PaC]

I agree with you there. I'm not a Hayate fan, but it's good to finally see him doing something while everyone else are the centers of attention. All these years, people always said Hayate was useless, worthless, a waste of space, but maybe now this will cause the fans to look at him with even just a little bit of respect. Lets hope this was NOT the last we see Hayate stepping up.

Lol, hey dude, Im a realist. Im sure next time the story updates he'll be beaten up and kidnapped again. I do agree that ever since he got his memory back he's been borderline ineffectual unless it's moving the plot forward. I think Im just a sucker for underdogs or something

 

[DOAfanforever]

Lol, hey dude, Im a realist. Im sure next time the story updates he'll be beaten up and kidnapped again. I do agree that ever since he got his memory back he's been borderline ineffectual unless it's moving the plot forward. I think Im just a sucker for underdogs or something

And there's nothing wrong with that. Even underdogs need to have their time in the spotlight, but knowing Team Ninja, I agree, they might make Hayate be the damsel in distresss again. I just don't see that in Ayane as much as I do with Hayate, but that's just me.

 

[deathofaninja]

That's because she did. It was AYANE who fought Genra in his Omega form in DOA 3. NOT ZACK.
It's practically the same as Ryu fighting The Tengu boss in DOA 2, and people say he won that tournament. Whoever beats the final boss in the tournament is the winner of the said tournament. That's how it goes.

Also, look here: https://deadoralive.fandom.com/wiki/Zack

Go to the Third DOA tournament and read there.

Don't get me wrong, I did consider this like anyone else, but by the offset chance do you have the bracket for DOA3? I think I remember seeing it but the link you gave me offers no citation where she simply offers the title up and has no reason for the money. If that's the case that very statement was never mentioned until DOAD or after and somehow I missed it.

I think "claiming victory" would also insinuate a tournament win, and for further evidence just look at the DOAXVB manual where it says he won and took his winnings with no Ayane mentioned at all. She settled her issues with Genra and that matters most... it's even suggested within DOAD that Genra released Tengu into the wild, and had nothing to do with being a part of the actual tournament. What a hoot.

Out of all of the bosses Raidou seems to be most likely to be a legit combatant in the tournament and not just a DOATEC monster on the loose. As it seems there is evidence that points to him being at the arena that hosted the match.

Ayane winning? Seems like community speculation or a theory to me with nothing as concrete as what is in the writing.