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Argentus

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Yeah, not looking like the person they're cloned from kinda completely defeats the point of being clones.
Not really no.

Like Spider-Man's clone dyed his hair blonde, changed his name to Ben Reilly, and wore a different costume to differentiate himself from Peter parker.

The only reason for a clone to look exactly the same as the original, is when the clone is impersonating the original, like in 5's story mode.

phase 4 isn't doing that, and is even having an identity crisis (her intro/win quotes), so it would make more sense for her to change her hair to look different from kasumi.
 

Dark-truth

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My Ideas for Upcomming DLC
-Sexy FireFighter DLC
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-Another Fan Design pack
-Another transform costume pack
-Mortalkombat DLC pack
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-SF DLC pack
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-Various Anime Pack
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-CasualPack
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-Another collab
That's what I would like.
 

Kronin

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Not really no.

Like Spider-Man's clone dyed his hair blonde, changed his name to Ben Reilly, and wore a different costume to differentiate himself from Peter parker.

The only reason for a clone to look exactly the same as the original, is when the clone is impersonating the original, like in 5's story mode.

phase 4 isn't doing that, and is even having an identity crisis (her intro/win quotes), so it would make more sense for her to change her hair to look different from kasumi.

I agree, but currently Phase 4 is not trying to impersonate/not impersonate someone simply because she doesn't own freedom, rather she is only a tool in the hands of MIST, in the end a slave used for experimental tests. Her quotes are supposed to be inner thoughts while she is doing MIST's job and potential seeds for her future development, but currently they aren't the thoughts of someone that is trying to get a personal identity, because like I said she has no way to do it nor - at the moment - a certainty that she is acting wrong and a serious wish to go against her "parents".

If you know the Evangelion series I suppose that Rei Ayanami's character (intended from the "second" to the "third" one) represents very well a character close to Phase: while she is not treated as a slave or a simple weapon, again she is basically an artificial tool in the hands of the Nerv for the commander's purposes. Simplifying the character, Rei's passive behavior led her to execute the orders without too many thoughts neither self care of herself, however with the progression of the series Shinji's influence led her to acquire more and more awareness of her own persona and wish to get an own identity detached from the ties with Gendo. I suppose that with an ordinary ending for the series, the predictable development for the second Rei would have been the one to get a proper life following Shinji's example.

Phase is apparently following the same path with the only difference that she seems to not require external influences for developing this feeling of self-consciousness or need to follow her own wishes rather than what ordered her, but anyway just now this is not enough for changing her "lifestyle". Not sure if she will get an happy ending or less in the end, but in any cases I believe that her awareness and rebellion from MIST will happen and only through/after a fateful encounter/struggle with Kasumi.
 
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Dark-truth

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I agree, but currently Phase 4 is not trying to impersonate/not impersonate someone simply because she doesn't own freedom, rather she is only a tool in the hands of MIST, in the end a slave used for experimental tests. Her quotes are supposed to be inner thoughts while she is doing MIST's job and potential seeds for her future development, but currently they aren't the thoughts of someone that is trying to get a personal identity, simply because she has no way to do it neither - at the moment - a certainty that she is acting wrong and a serious wish to go against her "parents".

If you know the Evangelion series I suppose that Rei Ayanami's character (intended from the "second" to the "third" one) represents very well a character close to Phase: while she is not treated as a slave or a simple weapon, again she is basically an artificial tool in the hands of the Nerv for the commander's purposes. Simplifying the character Rei's passive behavior led her to execute the orders without too many thoughts neither self care of herself, however with the progression of the series Shinji's influence led her to acquire more and more awareness of her own persona and wish to get an own identity detached from the ties with Gendo. I suppose that with an ordinary ending for the series, the predictable development for the second Rei would have been the one to get a proper life following Shinji's example.

Phase is apparently following the same path with the only difference that apparently she doesn't need of external influences for developing this feeling of self-consciousness or need to follow her own wishes rather than what ordered her, but anyway just now this is not enough for changing her "lifestyle". Not sure if she will get an happy ending or less in the end, but in any cases I'm pretty sure that her awareness and rebellion from MIST will happen and only through/after a fateful encounter/struggle with Kasumi.
I hope Kasumi spares phase though. She might be of good use for Kasumi.
 

Kronin

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I hope Kasumi spares phase though. She might be of good use for Kasumi.

If she will die I can see Phase to do it only through a self-sacrifice for the good guys but not at the hands of Kasumi that I think will develope pity and eventually a sisterly bond with her (on the opposite I think that Kasumi could possibily protect the clone from Hayate and Ayane if necessary).
 

Dark-truth

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If she will die I can see Phase to do it only through a self-sacrifice for the good guys but not at the hands of Kasumi that I think will develope pity and eventually a sisterly bond with her (on the opposite I think that Kasumi could possibily protect the clone from Hayate and Ayane if necessary).
Yeah, I was thinking about that too. Here's my theory:
During the fight between phase and Kasumi raidou interrupts and fights Kasumi raidou is about to kill Kasumi with a blast and phase jumps Infront of It and gets hit
 

P2p1mbs

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Not really no.

Like Spider-Man's clone dyed his hair blonde, changed his name to Ben Reilly, and wore a different costume to differentiate himself from Peter parker.

The only reason for a clone to look exactly the same as the original, is when the clone is impersonating the original, like in 5's story mode.

phase 4 isn't doing that, and is even having an identity crisis (her intro/win quotes), so it would make more sense for her to change her hair to look different from kasumi.

I was actually going to give Ben riley as an example of clones changing their appearance to create their own identity. Might not apply to phase 4 but can still apply to either Marie or Honoka if they do go with that plot twist...
 

Dark-truth

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I was actually going to give Ben riley as an example of clones changing their appearance to create their own identity. Might not apply to phase 4 but can still apply to either Marie or Honoka if they do go with that plot twist...
Dramatic music. Oh no ! That plot twist.
 

KasumiLover

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Here's another twist i suggested before; kasumi has been dead since the first game! ALL the kasumis we've been playing have been clones :eek:
If that angle were true, I don't think I could ever play DOA again....that angle is too dark...(0_0) That's like saying saying Lili was raped by her captors, it'd just be too much for me..
 

P2p1mbs

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If that angle were true, I don't think I could ever play DOA again....that angle is too dark...(0_0) That's like saying saying Lili was raped by her captors, it'd just be too much for me..

Don't worry about it, do you honestly believe that TN is clever enough to make such a plot twist? They already did the kasumi killing fake out, doing it again would be stupid.
 

KasumiLover

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Don't worry about it, do you honestly believe that TN is clever enough to make such a plot twist? They already did the kasumi killing fake out, doing it again would be stupid.
Let's just hope not, I remember when I first thought Kasumi died in the story mode, those two screams made me lose it...:
:kasumi:~AUHHAAAUGH! UGH....Unnnn...*after the second slice* AUUUHHERRR....

My little sister laughed at it too...I was so mad. I wanted to push Ryu out of the way and carry "Kasumi" back to my place where i would nurse her back to health. NO ONE kills Kasumi. /:-l I'm so glad no one made a gif of the death scene, I'd feel some kind of way.
 

Tyaren

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My little sister laughed at it too...I was so mad. I wanted to push Ryu out of the way and carry "Kasumi" back to my place where i would nurse her back to health. NO ONE kills Kasumi. /:-l I'm so glad no one made a gif of the death scene, I'd feel some kind of way.


Oh, the huge disappointment when you want to prove someone wrong, searching the whole internet for minutes for a specific gif but having to eventually give up. :(

I can't believe no one made that gif. There MUST be a gif like that... >.>
 

Chapstick

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I'm sure there's one on tumblr somewhere but you're gonna have to wade through a lot of incest porn (pairings of Kasumi/Ayane/Hayate or all three together I'm sure) to get to it
 

Argentus

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I'm sure there's one on tumblr somewhere but you're gonna have to wade through a lot of incest porn (pairings of Kasumi/Ayane/Hayate or all three together I'm sure) to get to it

I remember one of my earliest exposures to DOA was an animated gif of ayane taking a strap on to kasumi.

That was also the day I realized my laptop can indeed have an animated gif as the desktop background.
 

Tyaren

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I remember one of my earliest exposures to DOA was an animated gif of ayane taking a strap on to kasumi.

That was also the day I realized my laptop can indeed have an animated gif as the desktop background.

Lol, Argentus casually admitting he had Ayane/Kasumi porn as his desktop background. XD
 

P2p1mbs

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I'm sure there's one on tumblr somewhere but you're gonna have to wade through a lot of incest porn (pairings of Kasumi/Ayane/Hayate or all three together I'm sure) to get to it

That's actually not as common as Honoka/Marie pairings and thats probably worse due to the implied twincest and the fact that Marie is jailbait.

I remember one of my earliest exposures to DOA was an animated gif of ayane taking a strap on to kasumi.

That was also the day I realized my laptop can indeed have an animated gif as the desktop background.

I used to have an image of Tina and Mila naked in bed together as one of my desktop backgrounds on my Windows 7 theme, one time, my sister went to my room and I showed the desktop to freak her out :rolleyes:. I stopped using such wallpapers since it became too distracting.

Nowadays, I use the large desktop sized images of promotional images of doa5 dlc costumes of my main girls as my wallpapers.
 
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