The Art Style and Graphics Discussion

KasumiLover

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The image quality is higher, than we've seen before, also there is no dithering of shadowing/ambient occlusion anymore. Either they fixed it...or it's bullshots...
Now that you mention it, they could be bull shots most likely. Game developers always want to make their game look as pretty and flawless as possible. But then again, maybe this is the latest build that they haven't used as the beta version yet.
 

WisperG

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...I'm just dissapointed they increased her cup size but i'll get over it.

I can see the face changes, but I'm not seeing bigger boobs. It looks to me like her tight outfit is just pushing them up, not unlike how DOA's breasts "react" differently depending on the clothing they're in.
 

Kodachi

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I can see the face changes, but I'm not seeing bigger boobs. It looks to me like her tight outfit is just pushing them up, not unlike how DOA's breasts "react" differently depending on the clothing they're in.
Compared to Street fighter 4 they appear much larger but after a second look its not that significant.
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WisperG

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@Kodachi Oh, wait, you meant from SFIV to SFV? I thought you meant alongside the minor facial changes she just received after people complained about her early SFV look.
 

Tyaren

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I'll port this over here:

Okay I got a question. If I set the boob option to Natural, do I actually still get the Soft Engine activated?

Depends on what you think, the "Soft Engine" is. ;)
It's actually two different features. One is a subsurface scattering shader on the skin texture, for that warmer and softer glow of the skin (it's standard for every current console generation title though) and the other feature are more "bones" in the breasts, so that the movement animation is even more detailed and natural, than it was before.
Subsurface scattering is applied to every character (also the males) regardless of the boob mode, but the additional more natural and detailed breast movement you will only get in LR mode.
 

SoftCabbage

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I'll port this over here:
Depends on what you think, the "Soft Engine" is. ;)
It's actually two different features. One is a subsurface scattering shader on the skin texture, for that warmer and softer glow of the skin (it's standard for every current console generation title though) and the other feature are more "bones" in the breasts, so that the movement animation is even more detailed and natural, than it was before.
Subsurface scattering is applied to every character (also the males) regardless of the boob mode, but the additional more natural and detailed breast movement you will only get in LR mode.

I don't really know much about Soft Engine apart from the cloth tearing and the softer skin look or whatever.

So LR boob mode is basically natural jiggle plus gyro support shake?
 

Chapstick

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I don't really know much about Soft Engine apart from the cloth tearing and the softer skin look or whatever.

So LR boob mode is basically natural jiggle plus gyro support shake?
The soft engine has nothing to do with the tearing. There is no engine with that, it just instantly switches outfits with a confetti explosion to try to distract you.

Y'know I don't really notice the skin difference as much on the girls but on some of the guys like Jann Lee or Bayman when they start to sweat it looks a lot better.
 

Tyaren

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I don't really know much about Soft Engine apart from the cloth tearing and the softer skin look or whatever.
So LR boob mode is basically natural jiggle plus gyro support shake?

Clothes ripping has nothing to do with the Soft Engine. As I said, the "Soft Engine" is just a clever marketing term for subsurface scattering of the skin...


...as well as an advanced bone structure and it's animation of the breasts:


The Soft Engine is technically the new movement of the breast setted on "LR", so to use another setting as "Natural" is exclusionary for it. However people use the term in a not proper way even for indicating the new light effect used fom DoA5LR in the Xbox One and PS4 version for giving more depth and tone to the skin and the male muscles. If you meant it of course the new color effects are always active indipendently from the breast setting used.

This is right and at the same time not right. Yes, advanced bone structure and animation of the breasts has primarily nothing to do with subsurface scattering but Team Ninja marketed the "Soft Engine" as a combination of both, so people do use the term properly, if they refer to the Soft Engine as breast jiggle plus soft skin glow. Both these features constitute in making the body/skin appear soft.
 
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Tyaren

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:oops: It's funny because it's true

But this does look better right

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The skin doesn't look like just a texture imo

This costume generally has really nice textures, for example the jeans:

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And here we have the worst jeans texture of the game as a comparison:

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DDD:
 

Tyaren

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This might be straight out of VF honestly

Pretty sure, that it actually is. The camera in VF5 never really zooms in so far, to reveal the ugly textures. They were clever to hide their shortcomings. ;)

I have another comparison. It might get ugly...

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Both from the casual set, yet such a huge discrepancy of quality. :/

One more non-crotch comparison. XD

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Santa Mila can saw her own Christmas trees with these shoulders... ;)
 
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KasumiLover

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Pretty sure, that it actually is. The camera in VF5 never really zooms in so far, to reveal the ugly textures. They were clever to hide their shortcomings. ;)

I have another comparison. It might get ugly...

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Both from the casual set, yet such a huge discrepancy of quality. :/

One more non-crotch comparison. XD

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Santa Mila can saw her own Christmas trees with these shoulders... ;)
God, what happened to her shoulders?!
 

Juihau

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Santa Mila can saw her own Christmas trees with these shoulders... ;)
I realize what you're trying to say, but I'm stuck imagining actually trying to saw a tree with my shoulders, and it sounds horrifically painful.
 
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