werewolfgold
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Ehhhh, my hyperbole and cognitive bias detectors are going off. I kind of want to actually look into it, but I don't think I can be assed. lol
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Kotaku "Dead Or Alive Is More Than Breasts"
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Xhominid The Demon Within
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Well as I said before, this is more of a person by person thing rather than an issue of the game itself. For pete sake I can play Onechanbara without a hint of fear anymore nor give even the slightest of shits going ham on the dressup options in Soul Calibur, Tekken and Dragon's Dogma and someone walks into the room.
While sexuality is ALSO 0% of the reason I got into the game, it really doesn't effect me period whether they add more or less, but I find removing it to be basically a stupid and overall worthless option.
I guess it's weird I have zero issues with sexuality but I have ALOT of issues of violence(for goodness sake I can't handle a throat slit without wincing or covering my neck let alone more gruesome deaths...and I'm an American).
I need to get away from MH4U... I'm playing it way too much.
But they're also trying to sell outside of Japan, as well. Also, fanservice isn't the same as softporn. Nintendo is notorious for fanservice, but it is pretty tame even for american standards (for the most part).
No, this is not fanservice. Humans also love money, taking things they want without paying for them (especially software piracy), or just about anything that they can benefit from without any sort of pain (it takes special people who can enjoy things like exercise and things like that). But if i have to explain the negative effects of over-indulgence of anything, especially related to sex, then you might not be old enough to be having this conversation.
Or, could it possibly, just possibly, be that they're judging things from the point of view of their own cultures? If you're part of an outcast subculture, you just may actually end up hearing bad things about your outcast subculture. Do the opinions fom people outside of your subculture on why they refuse to join your subculture bothering you? You know, if your mind is open enough, if you are more accepting of ideas different from your own, you could enjoy Call of Duty and Minecraft just as much.
See response to quote above.
Most people I know have problems with both, really. Fortunately, since i'm less likely to be a murderer than a shallow pervert, I don't have to hide Metal Gear (except for certain scenes). Though, to be fair, it could also have alot to do with perceptions. I know many people who could play this game with their family, but they're also people who are known for being hardcore perverts. Them playing anything less perverse would be more shocking and damaging to their character (note: success rate not included).
Your circle of friends must be fun. I'm having a hard time finding people that aren't bothered by it. It's funny, now that i mentioned that i tried SCV, conversations are starting to gravitate towards Ivy (I don't even think she's the worst, but i guess that's the one that works on the most people).
But they're also trying to sell outside of Japan, as well. Also, fanservice isn't the same as softporn. Nintendo is notorious for fanservice, but it is pretty tame even for american standards (for the most part).
No, this is not fanservice. Humans also love money, taking things they want without paying for them (especially software piracy), or just about anything that they can benefit from without any sort of pain (it takes special people who can enjoy things like exercise and things like that). But if i have to explain the negative effects of over-indulgence of anything, especially related to sex, then you might not be old enough to be having this conversation.
Or, could it possibly, just possibly, be that they're judging things from the point of view of their own cultures? If you're part of an outcast subculture, you just may actually end up hearing bad things about your outcast subculture. Do the opinions fom people outside of your subculture on why they refuse to join your subculture bothering you? You know, if your mind is open enough, if you are more accepting of ideas different from your own, you could enjoy Call of Duty and Minecraft just as much.
See response to quote above.
Most people I know have problems with both, really. Fortunately, since i'm less likely to be a murderer than a shallow pervert, I don't have to hide Metal Gear (except for certain scenes). Though, to be fair, it could also have alot to do with perceptions. I know many people who could play this game with their family, but they're also people who are known for being hardcore perverts. Them playing anything less perverse would be more shocking and damaging to their character (note: success rate not included).
DeadlyChase
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They aren't trying to sell outside there country. They are selling outside there country.
Bikinis. It's all opinions at the end of the day. From what women wear at the beach now, to what women did wearing at the beach years ago. Feminist groups against today's bikinis and the like. It's stupid I know, but you'll find stupid stuff like that on the internet. Just like blogs complaining about DOA for the 9,99999999995th time.
Anyway the point of that was sex sells. Over time clothes/ movies and TV have gotten more sexual, and now video games. So what?
If its about not being over-indulged with sex then the world is failing, but that's not what it's about. It's simple. People like to complain, and sex is easy to complain about. Since Last round just came out lets talk about DOA again, and talk about the same thing we did when DOA5U was making a seen. Just to make some news. If you're a fan you know how DOA is. A Sexy fighter. It's been that way for awhile. Oopse spoilers?
Warning to much DOA may cause you to be over indulged with sexual thoughts, and could be harmful to the Vagina or Prostate. (Vagina) because shirtless men are fan service too.
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werewolfgold
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Nah. Needs moar male gravure vids. lolol
DeadlyChase
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Lol XD
petopia
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Hey buddy i think you got the wrong door the leather clubs 2 blocks down.
I played it in front of my wife, my kids, my parents, everyone. If I get embarrassed it's actually not about me getting conflicted about playing the game specifically, but more about me playing games in general during the funeral (kapa).
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Zephyrion
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I completely agree with the fact that some of the DoA DLC content goes far, but the issue isn't there. DoA's biggest issue is that a game with fun and unique mechanics that is accessible to casual players WHILE being deep enough to be played competitively have never seen some promotion on its gameplay subtleties. Because of this, the game has been shunned by casuals as "boobie game" and pros as "sucky game" and it has been stuck in this rut ever since.
While Team Ninja's promotion had some importance in this matter, I really think we should stop being embarassed playing our games because let's face it, somebody will always have qualms about you or another playing x or y games cause x or y reason (too sexy, too easy,too short, too long, too "anime" ,*insert anything you want here*). Just ignore all this, you like or a game for your own reasons and if you feel okay with them, just roll with it. some people play it for the steamy contents, others for fun, others for game mechanics, others because they have their crush on such or such character, but at the end of the day we're all playing the same game and we're all loving it !
Call me stupid or idealistic, but I think our game will be recognized for what it is the day we stop shunning the own members of our communities for their tastes, and stop caring about whatever crap people are throwing at the game, because no matter what stance Team Ninja takes, this will always be a thing.
While Team Ninja's promotion had some importance in this matter, I really think we should stop being embarassed playing our games because let's face it, somebody will always have qualms about you or another playing x or y games cause x or y reason (too sexy, too easy,too short, too long, too "anime" ,*insert anything you want here*). Just ignore all this, you like or a game for your own reasons and if you feel okay with them, just roll with it. some people play it for the steamy contents, others for fun, others for game mechanics, others because they have their crush on such or such character, but at the end of the day we're all playing the same game and we're all loving it !
Call me stupid or idealistic, but I think our game will be recognized for what it is the day we stop shunning the own members of our communities for their tastes, and stop caring about whatever crap people are throwing at the game, because no matter what stance Team Ninja takes, this will always be a thing.
Barely.
Video games today seem to be making it a point to go a step further than TV and movies. The music industry seems to be trying to 1-up video games.
That's the thing though. TN wants to reach more people, but said more people are not willing to change what they want and like when there are things out there already for them. The powers that be (community and TN) need to decide whether it's more important to broaden the game or retain what it is. This is where the issue lies. You got, on one hand, people who don't want change. Then you got people on the other hand who think the community needs to get larger. These 2 sides are going to clash, because they're incompatible when it comes to DoA. It's like if you own a restaurant that prides itself in usage of profanity when serving food. I'm sure there's a niche that would be supported by it. However, no matter how good the food is, it's not going to ever become a family frequented establishment. If they want families there, they need to be family friendly. Any customers who try to invite families with young children to that restaurant will be promptly informed that their decision is offensive. DoA is like this restaurant, only it's sex not profanity. The awesome food that is the true reason the restaurant appeals to the customers (the hook: the food) isn't as important as the gimmick (the bait: the profanity). The biggest difference is, that this figurative restaurant's customers understand that the excessive profanity is offensive, and that just because one might hear "shit" at another restaurant once a year is no reason to believe that the excessive profanity is suddenly family friendly.
It's more or less that they're trying to appeal too hard to a crowd they're not even allowed to appeal to (teens and tweens).
GrapeInfernal
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Well, it's uncomfortable for me to play any game in presense of non-gaming people, whether game has fan service or not. Also, mostly agree with @DeadlyChase about beaches, tv advertisments, print ads. All of that stuff is everywhere, but for some reason people start complaining when it appears in some videogame. I also should note that while i appreciaty DoA's cast being "some fine ladies", mostly no one fits my taste (Hitomi did, but in DoA 3 version). What really emberass, it's huge amount of all these disputes about "look, tits" or "we are so ashamed of this".