DOA5 and Sexualization: Too Much?

[Brute]

I suppose it makes little sense if what I was referencing to got deleted. lol

Well, I can see all deleted content. But for the rest of the forum, they now get to decipher an impossible riddle thanks to yours truly.

Okay, enough rambling. Back to topic.

 

[Xhominid The Demon Within]

I'm not "acting" like anything. I'm only reporting what I've found. I just pulled an SF4 combo vid to check. Not a one "untoward" thing on the list. I'm sure it's out there somewhere if you wanna look. But, it's about what's shoved in your face even if your not looking for it.

YOUTUBE IS TRYING TO SABOTAGE DOA, GUYS!! BOYYYYYCOTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, I do remember the "No Mai No Buy" thing, though. That was the least of KOF12's problems. Didn't they have Mai and K' promotional art or something and they still weren't in the game? lol

But, yeah, Lucky Chloe is a thing.

Okay, you know you didn't have to go that far because I damn sure didn't. And as I stated, I usually see Street Fighter Ryona in MY suggestion box, I never said it would apply to anyone else, just that there is a chance seeing as how it's from my end.

And while yes, KOF12 had alot of issues, I was still saying over how people would do the same thing for other fighting games as the stupid comment you saw for Raidou is not the exception, just a dumbass rule.

And yes, Lucky Chloe is still a thing for some unfathomable reason.

 

[werewolfgold]

Okay, you know you didn't have to go that far because I damn sure didn't.

Wait. How far did I go? The boycott thing was a joke.

 

[Argentus]

what the hells lucky chloe, and is it relevant?

 

[Saber]

Its exactly what I said. When ALL we get is sexualized shit, and nothing substantial or appropriate. A fetish pack here and there is no big deal. But almost all of 2014 was fetish packs, so for those of us wanting real content, we were SOL.

You're not the one deciding who gets what. I myself would much prefer DOA5 with more casual clothing options instead of bikinis or reindeer outfits, but to quote Christina Hoff Sommers, "My gaming preferences can't be generalized, and certainly can't be used as a basis for condemning others." You may prefer more "appropriate" clothing, but that doesn't apply to everyone else.

There's no problem to be had with "fetish packs." The main demographic for DOA5 is the straight male, and many of them like images of beautiful, sexy women. There's no reason to shame them or the game for presenting revealing costumes, because their sexual preferences are just as valid as any other.

 

[Argentus]

You're not the one deciding who gets what. I myself would much prefer DOA5 with more casual clothing options instead of bikinis or reindeer outfits, but to quote Christina Hoff Sommers, "My gaming preferences can't be generalized, and certainly can't be used as a basis for condemning others." You may prefer more "appropriate" clothing, but that doesn't apply to everyone else.

There's no problem to be had with "fetish packs." The main demographic for DOA5 is the straight male, and many of them like images of beautiful, sexy women. There's no reason to shame them or the game for presenting revealing costumes, because their sexual preferences are just as valid as any other.

Fuck those guys and their incorrect tastes. I condemn them all. ALL I SAY.

 

[werewolfgold]

Fuck those guys and their incorrect tastes. I condemn them all. ALL I SAY.

I feel like this gif is going to haunt my nightmares if I let down my guard...

 

[Shiranui]

You won't find any "MKX and Extreme Gore: Too much?" topic in MK community forums. Why is different when the matter is sex? Sex is better than violence. There's nothing wrong with sexualization and sex and that shouldn't be polemic. What to me is polemic is sexism. And that's a problem that infects A LOT of videogames and a lot of cultures. Not only DOA and japanese culture.

 

[Brute]

Sex is better than violence.

Whenever this became a law, I was apparently not notified.

 

[werewolfgold]

There's no problem to be had with "fetish packs." The main demographic for DOA5 is the straight male, and many of them like images of beautiful, sexy women. There's no reason to shame them or the game for presenting revealing costumes, because their sexual preferences are just as valid as any other.

If your goal is to attract more fans and have the general gaming community not snicker when you mention Dead or Alive, there may indeed be something wrong with "fetish packs".

Of course, they can go all "fuck the haters", but as a company, that only goes to a certain point. If DOA is fine with it's current fanbase, then OK. But, some people in their PR department are constantly on damage control trying to assure people on the FB page and elsewhere that DOA is indeed a fighting game and not porn. So, their releasing fetish packs isn't helping all that much with that. It's a problem if people who have been supporting you all this time are now are at your doorstep with pitchforks, so to speak.

This isn't about shaming heterosexuality. I don't think heterosexuality would ever allow itself to be shamed. lol

You won't find any "MKX and Extreme Gore: Too much?" topic in MK community forums.

Awww, don't say that. I bet you I can find you some. lol

There have also been a few people with fatality wish lists that...let's just say have been met with some repulsion generally. Even some MK fans draw the line in some places. Ed Boon himself has said that there are places that he'd rather not go. What all that entails...not sure, though.

Why is different when the matter is sex? Sex is better than violence. There's nothing wrong with sexualization and sex and that shouldn't be polemic. What to me is polemic is sexism. And that's a problem that infects A LOT of videogames and a lot of cultures. Not only DOA and japanese culture.

Ya know, I'm not going to be the one making the argument that sex is bad and any instances of sexualization is a terrible thing. For me, I just think that there's a time and place for stuff and there can be too much of a good thing. Even if something is technically fine in theory, it can get tiring if it's overdone. That goes for basically anything. I've partaken in several different forms of media over the years and you just start noticing stuff...over and over. Something that flies in the face of the norm and mixes things up would be welcome for me. Hell, give me a woman who isn't sexualized. Not talking about DOA, cause that's not gonna happen. But, somewhere. Like, Mitsuko from Bloody Roar 1. Her job was not to look pretty. Her job was to mash your face in until you told her where to find her daughter. I just want Japanese media to take more risks in general. Sex sells. Yeah. But, it's safe...and boring (to me).

 

[oMASTER LEGENDo]

You won't find any "MKX and Extreme Gore: Too much?" topic in MK community forums. Why is different when the matter is sex? Sex is better than violence. There's nothing wrong with sexualization and sex and that shouldn't be polemic. What to me is polemic is sexism. And that's a problem that infects A LOT of videogames and a lot of cultures. Not only DOA and japanese culture.

No Violence is better than Sex it's been proven by sub-zero.

 

[Squizzo]

No Violence is better than Sex it's been proven by sub-zero.

Violent sex is better, it's been proven by Raidou.

 

[werewolfgold]

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd, I think that's enough of that.

 

[oMASTER LEGENDo]

You're not the one deciding who gets what. I myself would much prefer DOA5 with more casual clothing options instead of bikinis or reindeer outfits, but to quote Christina Hoff Sommers, "My gaming preferences can't be generalized, and certainly can't be used as a basis for condemning others." You may prefer more "appropriate" clothing, but that doesn't apply to everyone else.

There's no problem to be had with "fetish packs." The main demographic for DOA5 is the straight male, and many of them like images of beautiful, sexy women. There's no reason to shame them or the game for presenting revealing costumes, because their sexual preferences are just as valid as any other.

There's a problem alright this is a Fighting game not Xtreme beach volleyball 2 it's because people can't tell the difference anymore so why care about the Fighting if you could just sell me Xtreme beach volleyball 3 all those fetish costumes is perfect for that game not DOA5 or at least not all the time. You put the Fighting game first then second the sex appeal.

 

[Xhominid The Demon Within]

Wait. How far did I go? The boycott thing was a joke.

I was talking about the top part.

 

[EMPEROR_COW]

Wait till you see the beach volley ball mini game. >__>

(This is a joke but if it happens I swear I wont be surprised)

 

[Argentus]

Wait till you see the beach volley ball mini game. >__>

(This is a joke but if it happens I swear I wont be surprised)

honestly i'd be okay if they just integrated the Xtreme series as a side mode in the main doa game instead of it getting so much attention as a standalone. It would justify gravure mode and all the bikinis.

sides, I liked the music, and it was surprisingly relaxing to play. Plus then, whoever it was could believably get their gen fu on a slide lol.

 

[EMPEROR_COW]

honestly i'd be okay if they just integrated the Xtreme series as a side mode in the main doa game instead of it getting so much attention as a standalone. It would justify gravure mode and all the bikinis.

sides, I liked the music, and it was surprisingly relaxing to play. Plus then, whoever it was could believably get their gen fu on a slide lol.

Dont get me wrong,

I enjoyed it just like the next guy ..
and I grinded the game just to get all the costumes for Leifang ...
But, I would really like to keep the worlds separate ...

If they do bring it back ...
They better give me back the Casino.. I used to spend hours on that thing... lol

 

[Jyakotu]

I wouldn't mind another Xtreme game. At this point, haters gonna hate on DOA for whatever reason. Might as well give the fans what they want. Even make a promotional offer where all binkini and Guarve DLC purchased in DOA5 transfers over. DOA and sexy go hand in hand, so what's wrong with the DOA girls having their fun on Zack Island? Are people really that offended about girls wearing bikinis at an island resort, having fun?

 

[Hayabusiness]

But, I would really like to keep the worlds separate ...

This is important, to me.
I also enjoy DOAX a lot, and it's far from being that sexist abomination everyone talks about.
It's just that when you have a fighting game, you expect something different. I don't want the worlds to collide this much because it just breaks the atmosphere and general ahesthethics of the game...

They'd spend them so much money to make a new Xtreme but I'm sure it'd sell like hotcakes in Japan, now that we have DOA on the PS too, and Marie Rose.

However, I wonder how it'd affect DOA's reputation... I'm not sure if it'd make things better, but at least we wouldn't have gravures in DOA6 (maybe).