kfad
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I'm pretty sure it was made to be serious, she's supposed to be a Japanese ghost....with very little clothing lol I liked the ghost concept but yeah...ugh what is lei fang supposed to be? does anyone know? LOL
Community Team NINJA Halloween Costume Contest
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Kronin
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@Shiranui has already posted the message of TN on their official site:
"Thank you to everybody who took part in this competition.
Please let us display the top 10 costumes selected by your voting from the unvierse. We might pick up some other costumes for the prize and including those, we will contact you separately through Facebook, Twitter and email. We apologize We delayed to exhibit some of your designs and a few of the costumes are missing. We will contact you shortly".
So even this time TN announced that other outfits not in the top ten could end to get some special recognition and prize like in the last contest. However this time the authors of such designs will be contacted privately (together with the authors of the top 10 designs), so apparently they will not be disclosed in a public way.
So maybe some FSD users could get a special message from TN in the next hours/days, don't lose completely all the hopes =)
"Thank you to everybody who took part in this competition.
Please let us display the top 10 costumes selected by your voting from the unvierse. We might pick up some other costumes for the prize and including those, we will contact you separately through Facebook, Twitter and email. We apologize We delayed to exhibit some of your designs and a few of the costumes are missing. We will contact you shortly".
So even this time TN announced that other outfits not in the top ten could end to get some special recognition and prize like in the last contest. However this time the authors of such designs will be contacted privately (together with the authors of the top 10 designs), so apparently they will not be disclosed in a public way.
So maybe some FSD users could get a special message from TN in the next hours/days, don't lose completely all the hopes =)
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JKT
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I'm against the skimpy outfits which won. But its still too early to lose hope entirely in TN. Yes, the track record of skimpy outfits is abysmal, but to be the most reasonable. we can only sculpt our entire viewpoint once we know what TN releases from the design contest.
Rubedood
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Crappy winners all around. The only exceptions were the Nyotengu and Sarah ones, though Nyo's wasn't my favorite, I'm glad one of hers won, and it wasn't skimpy.
90% of Japanese voted? No wonder they're all bad. I'd hope that TN would have better judgement to include most of those, but it won't happen. So it looks like more shitty outfits incoming.
90% of Japanese voted? No wonder they're all bad. I'd hope that TN would have better judgement to include most of those, but it won't happen. So it looks like more shitty outfits incoming.
WisperG
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Not terribly impressed with the contest results. The only costume I voted for that made it was the Arabian/belly dancer Marie Rose, and I think the only one of the top 10 my brother voted for was butt-window Phase-4.
I'm kind of appalled that Hitomi render made it all the way to #2. I also really don't like that Lei Fang.
Nothing else looks bad to me per se, but there's nothing I really cared enough to vote for. If a few winners ended up as DLC I would need to see them in-game before I could pass judgement on whether I would actually buy them or not.
Also, while I do love Queen of Hearts Nyotengu (though not as much as Brute's and my own entries) it doesn't seem very practical in-game. It would be a clipping nightmare to have her fighting in a stiff-looking dress like that.
Also, something to think about, a handful of DOA4 costumes were selected from fan submissions through a contest, and some of the winners ended up being used on different characters rather than the ones they were originally drawn for. It'll be interesting to see if TN might do the same with entries from this and the previous contest.
I'm kind of appalled that Hitomi render made it all the way to #2. I also really don't like that Lei Fang.
Nothing else looks bad to me per se, but there's nothing I really cared enough to vote for. If a few winners ended up as DLC I would need to see them in-game before I could pass judgement on whether I would actually buy them or not.
Also, while I do love Queen of Hearts Nyotengu (though not as much as Brute's and my own entries) it doesn't seem very practical in-game. It would be a clipping nightmare to have her fighting in a stiff-looking dress like that.
Also, something to think about, a handful of DOA4 costumes were selected from fan submissions through a contest, and some of the winners ended up being used on different characters rather than the ones they were originally drawn for. It'll be interesting to see if TN might do the same with entries from this and the previous contest.
hehe, it's also worth mentioning the contest wasn't mutually exclusive to DOA fans-- seeing that anyone can vote. Some dude who has never played the game clicking over from a random blog that posted a link will have a much higher chance of clicking the skimpy outfits. And seeing how there is %100 anonymity this time around; that just encourages it, and can apply to all types of contests.
I am bummed out that none of my votes (minus Fox Sarah) even made it to the top ten, but moreso for the artists sake and not the design itself since it's all subjective. People here are knocking on some of the designs, when they really should be knocking the rules of submission. There is always the case of people voting for skin which would negate most of the creativity aspect, but in the end: TN accepted the designs. If TN really wanted it to be purely from a creative standpoint, they could have easily hardlined a rule and decline, "no skimpy stuff". The knocking is misplaced. That said, I can respect anyone who devotes time to craft something for their favorite character, regardless of the design.
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JKT
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@REALDEMO Ah yes I forgot about anyone being able to vote lol. Still the poem doesn't just include us DOA fans hehe. But I know what you mean literally anyone can vote.
I'm annoyed that my favourites didn't make it in either, but also that the winning entries were not to my taste and were even allowed in - TN did say nothing pornographic is allowed, so that rule was thrown out of the window. And the design contest was for the creative aspect. Yet these are the entries that was authorised and even won. Not only does it show IMO bad taste, it also shows TN doesn't commit to their own rules and this lowers my respect for their word.
Even if the design was allowed in or not, people can still have an opinion towards the design. The fact that these designs won the contest further adds salt to some people including myself because not only are they imo pornographic which goes against the rules, they are just distasteful.
Of course I can respect the time and effort people put into the entry, regardless of the design like you say, although that doesn't mean I have to like the actual design.
I'm annoyed that my favourites didn't make it in either, but also that the winning entries were not to my taste and were even allowed in - TN did say nothing pornographic is allowed, so that rule was thrown out of the window. And the design contest was for the creative aspect. Yet these are the entries that was authorised and even won. Not only does it show IMO bad taste, it also shows TN doesn't commit to their own rules and this lowers my respect for their word.
Even if the design was allowed in or not, people can still have an opinion towards the design. The fact that these designs won the contest further adds salt to some people including myself because not only are they imo pornographic which goes against the rules, they are just distasteful.
Of course I can respect the time and effort people put into the entry, regardless of the design like you say, although that doesn't mean I have to like the actual design.
RetroMe91
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I am going to be honest... These last couple of days have been a very big disappointment in the DOA world... I mean why even wear towels when you are already going be exposing your goodies thanks to fan submissions... I haven't decided which was worse news the upcoming dlc or the costume contest winning designs (minus Kasumi as Skeleton, No Queen of Hearts, MR as Egyptian dancer, and half way Kokoro as a maid though the other maid was better)... I mean that Hitomi costume was worse than the entire upcoming dlc itself...
oh yeah, definitely-- though they seem to be going by the loose definition of the term "pornographic". Showing off skin or nudity itself isn't pornographic. So by their standard, a bikini or anything showing off a lot of skin, does not fit that criteria. It's all about context. While I'm not defending it, DOA has always been on the borderline of said context, as evidence of the fact when TN accepted those designs with some of those winning.
Yeah, I never made the case that opinions are bad
When I said "subjective", I actually support the cases of both positive and negative reactions to a design, because it's subjective to the individual. What I was criticizing however, is the misplaced distaste of the influence a design entails even though the rules allow it-- i.e., "it only won because of <insert>". It's fair to judge a design based on ones opinion, but it's not fair to bash the design for winning based on either; mis-interpreted rules, and/or a loosely based definition set by the organizer. That type of dislike would be better suited towards the contest itself. In my case-- I didn't see any of those entries pornographic, just distasteful. So I can see how they were accepted. I would imagine that's the definition TN meant as well.oh yeah, that's why I said "regardless of the design". I thought that swamp Rachel one was hilarious but I do admire his/her dedication to Rachel to a point.
David Gregg
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Patience my friends. Yes I think many people are disappointed that the designs they thought were more deserving didn't make top 10 but remember this:
1) Every character got a Halloween outfit last year and there's a good chance that will happen again.
2) We haven't yet seen an official contest DLC pack from TN so we still don't know what their approach to these things are. Who knows there may be male DLC around the corner.
Congrats to the winners though (especially Queen of Hearts Nyotengu it would be fun beating opponents with a scepter. XD).
Yes I think many people are disappointed that the designs they thought were more deserving didn't make top 10 but remember this:1) Every character got a Halloween outfit last year and there's a good chance that will happen again.
2) We haven't yet seen an official contest DLC pack from TN so we still don't know what their approach to these things are. Who knows there may be male DLC around the corner.
Congrats to the winners though (especially Queen of Hearts Nyotengu it would be fun beating opponents with a scepter. XD).
lizardmech
Member
The only one that really pisses me off is the Ayane one.
It's a lazy design, almost made up of parts from other characters halloween costumes. Anatomy is wrong even though they can clearly draw ok they chose just to draw huge breasts and use a pose that mainly shows the boobs while much of the actual design is relegated to a small section on the side. If the same design were presented on a properly sized character with a pose more suited for concept art I do not think it would get much attention. They also didn't bother to draw her hair correctly so it did not seem like they had much interest in the character.
I do not think region or nationality had much effect on this design winning though. It had a few huge advantages, it was at the top of the page and one of the first in it's character group. The exaggerated breast size and pose mean that in thumbnail size people just see the boobs. I noticed when the competition was linked to on various video game websites many people unfamiliar with the series only spent a few seconds on the page and just voted this one.
It's a lazy design, almost made up of parts from other characters halloween costumes. Anatomy is wrong even though they can clearly draw ok they chose just to draw huge breasts and use a pose that mainly shows the boobs while much of the actual design is relegated to a small section on the side. If the same design were presented on a properly sized character with a pose more suited for concept art I do not think it would get much attention. They also didn't bother to draw her hair correctly so it did not seem like they had much interest in the character.
I do not think region or nationality had much effect on this design winning though. It had a few huge advantages, it was at the top of the page and one of the first in it's character group. The exaggerated breast size and pose mean that in thumbnail size people just see the boobs. I noticed when the competition was linked to on various video game websites many people unfamiliar with the series only spent a few seconds on the page and just voted this one.
Argentus
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The best angel...
Now I just wonder how many of the costumes from this contest will actually be in the DLC set in October.
Now I just wonder how many of the costumes from this contest will actually be in the DLC set in October.
Tirahrr
Active Member
I'm sad they haven't announced the top voted of each character like last time. We dot even know which ones TN likes, no special winners or anything.
Congrats to those who won though! Like pretty much everyone else here, they're not to my taste and unless they're cover up Marie Rose's butt a little more the only one I'll possibly buy is Kokoro's. Which I must say, is a little disappointing.
Congrats to those who won though! Like pretty much everyone else here, they're not to my taste and unless they're cover up Marie Rose's butt a little more the only one I'll possibly buy is Kokoro's. Which I must say, is a little disappointing.
indieanimator
Active Member
Cool, thanks for the heads up.
JKT
Well-Known Member
@REALDEMO
Yes I know showing skin isn’t pornographic, but the way the design was presented imo is pushing it – i.e. just enough cloth to cover the female bits lol. I agree about it being distasteful, and I see what you mean about it not being fair to bash a design based on mis-interpreted rules or loose definitions set by TN. But for me, if TN is accepting this kind of design, you can count me out of the next contest - I wouldn’t want to enter in a contest where clearly less is more and where I disagree with the definition of pornographic design. I wouldn't even care who won the next contest, if its just like the most recent one lol.
Rachel swamp? hehe
Yes I know showing skin isn’t pornographic, but the way the design was presented imo is pushing it – i.e. just enough cloth to cover the female bits lol. I agree about it being distasteful, and I see what you mean about it not being fair to bash a design based on mis-interpreted rules or loose definitions set by TN. But for me, if TN is accepting this kind of design, you can count me out of the next contest - I wouldn’t want to enter in a contest where clearly less is more and where I disagree with the definition of pornographic design. I wouldn't even care who won the next contest, if its just like the most recent one lol.
Rachel swamp? hehe
Shiranui
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One thing is clear. DoA is DoA and anybody here won't change that.
But that kind of argument "it's japanese" is not really true. We have plenty of japanese fighting games and none have this kind of costumes, and all those DLC packs. Street Fighter, Tekken, Soul Calibur, King of Fighters, Virtua Fighters... (well, SC had some nurses, cowboys and fetish packs but most of them were aviable for both male and female, and it had a lot of fighting outfits too)
Let's face it. It's DoA and it's how Team Ninja wants to position its games.
And of course, a game like DoA generates a very specific fanbase who love all that DLC packs we are getting again and again. Girls in DoA have more swimsuits than fighting costumes, that's a fact.
Before we get mad with Halloween Contest results we all should have clear what kind of game are we talking about here and what we can expect.
I love fighting costumes of all characters in DoA, and i wish to have more as DLC. And if i have to design any costume, these are the kind of costumes i like to design, because is the kind of costumes I would like to have. But DoA is how it is, and it won't change. So, better assume that.
But that kind of argument "it's japanese" is not really true. We have plenty of japanese fighting games and none have this kind of costumes, and all those DLC packs. Street Fighter, Tekken, Soul Calibur, King of Fighters, Virtua Fighters... (well, SC had some nurses, cowboys and fetish packs but most of them were aviable for both male and female, and it had a lot of fighting outfits too)
Let's face it. It's DoA and it's how Team Ninja wants to position its games.
And of course, a game like DoA generates a very specific fanbase who love all that DLC packs we are getting again and again. Girls in DoA have more swimsuits than fighting costumes, that's a fact.
Before we get mad with Halloween Contest results we all should have clear what kind of game are we talking about here and what we can expect.
I love fighting costumes of all characters in DoA, and i wish to have more as DLC. And if i have to design any costume, these are the kind of costumes i like to design, because is the kind of costumes I would like to have. But DoA is how it is, and it won't change. So, better assume that.