Tengu Being Added? Female?

[Brute]

I'm aware that TN's marketing and relations department sees the Western Audience as second-class, but via Twitter, if nothing else, they are fully aware that there is a portion of the Western community that is very vocal about their sympathy for Tengu. If TN went through with this, they did so knowing full-well what kind of response they'd get from that group.

If the JP don't really care about Tengu (very likely), then TN could simply appeal to them by making characters that have nothing to do with Tengu at all, and they reasonably should not be bothered. By adding the "tengu-but-not-tengu" element, I can see no purpose but to elicit a response from those who do care (the vocal western group mentioned prior). This thought isn't helped by antics like their April Fool's incident, i.e., they have a reputation for trolling the West who likes Tengu.

Again, I'm not jumping to premature judgement before I know what all this is even about, as there are no certainties. But am I highly, highly skeptical given their history? Yes.

 

[Zeo]

I can't post as... profoundly as Brute can, but in a nutshell I can say, poking Tengu fans with a stick is not cool and I don't support it. This is recognition that they exist, so this is not the way to treat them.

And I have no interest in re-igniting a war of words. I'd simply like to say, I'm not apathetic to Tengu players. I have no interest in the character but I think it would be great of the people that did want him were to get their beloved main. I'm simply a realist and don't want people to get their hopes up. I didn't even expect to get Ein before 5U surfaced.

But despite that I held on to that hope and logic or no It's not my place to tell others weather or not to hope or express discontent when things don't appear to be what they want.

I will say though...

Zeo's post was all wrong (as in 100% "all") and I could break it down with quote dissections piece-by-piece as I normally do,

I honest to God would love to read that. If you find the time/will. PM that response, I'm genuinely interested.

 

[Argentus]

My sketchdoodle of a tengu possessed girl in the appropriate thread...

 

[Darkton93]

We're bringing up the April Fools Day incident again? Wow. The internet truly is an unforgiving horde.

I say it's someone in a Tengu costume, because when your company acts malicious, you lose money, and when you lose money, you go out of business. So companies don't act malicious. What part of that is hard to understand?

 

[BLAZE]

Tengu is love, Tengu is life

 

[Codemaster92163]

Well, if they're trying to promote Tengu, they've done a hell of a job considering how many people were dragged into this inferno for one simple photo.

 

[Nereus]

I gotta agree with Zeo here... i feel like even if Tengu would return in all honesty how many of you would actually use him and stick with him? The same thing happened to Leon and Ein. I wouldn't mind him in the game, i probably wouldn't care for him but the statement still stands. This is all speculation and for all we know this could even be a double-reveal for both Tengu and this new character.

 

[Codemaster92163]

I still play Leon on occasion, though I never intended on subbing him, and I hate Ein, but I have every intention of learning Tengu and making him a secondary/tertiary character once again, just as in DOA4.

 

[iHajinShinobi]

Bandwagoning. People wanted Alpha-152 in DOA5, not a lot of people actually play her. People wanted Ein and Leon, not a lot of people play them. Rachel is only played because she's very simple, same for Momiji (at least online because everyone just mashes disadvantageous Tenku stuff).

Everyone wanted Marie Rose, not a lot of people play her, lol. The exact same thing will happen with Tengu.

People always just want to be "I want this and I want this I want it I want it I WANT IT!!!!!!!", and never fully commit to what's actually handed to you, like spoiled children.

Nothing anyone here says will change this fact, because it's going to happen.

 

[Elle Danse]

I feel like it's an Ayane costume.

 

[Brute]

I gotta agree with Zeo here... i feel like even if Tengu would return in all honesty how many of you would actually use him and stick with him? The same thing happened to Leon and Ein.

I use Leon all the time.

People always just want to be "I want this and I want this I want it I want it I WANT IT!!!!!!!", and never fully commit to what's actually handed to you, like spoiled children.

You really think that Forlorn and I would not play Tengu? After all this time?

 

[Codemaster92163]

Some people won't use him, sure, but neither me nor the other Tengu fans need people to use him. We just plan on using him ourselves. Ein players don't need a ton of fellow Ein players, and the same goes for Leon.

 

[Brute]

If we were just going by "Who do the tourney winners all pick?" the complete roster would be rather small.

 

[Darkton93]

Everyone wanted Marie Rose, not a lot of people play her, lol. The exact same thing will happen with Tengu.

Wasn't that more like "No one wanted her, yet when she got released, everyone played her?"

 

[Kohlrak]

Wasn't that more like "No one wanted her, yet when she got released, everyone played her?"

Phase 4. Alpha is like the master hand from smash bros. She's an avater character. Her moveset even uses the english speaking classification system for moves. Go do her command training trick. Especially those people that think TN is cruel and hateful towards the base. Go do alpha's command training.

IMO, i want the old alpha, just for the creepy little kid voice out of the adult body.

 

[Argentus]

Bandwagoning. People wanted Alpha-152 in DOA5, not a lot of people actually play her. People wanted Ein and Leon, not a lot of people play them. Rachel is only played because she's very simple, same for Momiji (at least online because everyone just mashes disadvantageous Tenku stuff).

Everyone wanted Marie Rose, not a lot of people play her, lol. The exact same thing will happen with Tengu.

People always just want to be "I want this and I want this I want it I want it I WANT IT!!!!!!!", and never fully commit to what's actually handed to you, like spoiled children.

Nothing anyone here says will change this fact, because it's going to happen.

For the record I've only ever used Leon till 5 where I switched to Mila and now I use those two. I say that to point out, my only opinion on things like alpha and tengu are that I dislike fighting them because they look goofy as hell. But as a Leon mainer I can't vote against tengu knowing people do indeed main him. I will however proudly wear the " I don't give a damn about Tengu" title lol.

 

[iHajinShinobi]

Every time someone says the truth here at FSD, people choose to be naive about it. What I said is a fact, due to actions here. Stop pretending like what I said isn't true because all of you know it is.

The denial is so real it's ridiculous. I will be observing your behavior like I always do once something new is released. Reactions are always the same.

 

[Awesmic]

Every time someone says the truth here at FSD, people choose to be naive about it. What I said is a fact, due to actions here. Stop pretending like what I said isn't true because all of you know it is.

The denial is so real it's ridiculous. I will be observing your behavior like I always do once something new is released. Reactions are always the same.

Mine won't be.

I've been asking for a trenchcoat for 2 years straight for Christie, and I'm pretty certain I will fully commit to wearing that costume as though my life depended on it... when it gets here, of course!

 

[Brute]

Every time someone says the truth here at FSD, people choose to be naive about it. What I said is a fact, due to actions here. Stop pretending like what I said isn't true because all of you know it is.

The denial is so real it's ridiculous. I will be observing your behavior like I always do once something new is released. Reactions are always the same.

What you said is open-ended and misleading. You said "People wanted Leon, but not many people play him." Yeah, but those who did want him do play him. I play him. Fork plays him. XZero plays him. Kidarc plays him. I guess Argentus plays him. Rikuto plays him. Don't forget DestructionBomb and others. Oh, and the real kicker is that Forlorn plays him, since he still doesn't have Tengu.

So what I see is that the people who did indeed want him and ask for him, do actually play him. So, when I, Forlorn and others want Tengu and ask for Tengu, what's "true" is that we will play him.

Your statement is misleading, and having few players playing a character is not just cause to not include them. Don't believe me? To take your argument, I could say "People wanted DOA. Not a lot of people play it." Or, to go further: "People wanted a competitively viable game. Not a lot of people play it competitively." Those are all true. But they're not a just reason not to make the damn game, just as smaller popularity due to lack of tits isn't a valid reason not to make specific characters who do have dedicated loyalists.

I'm not in denial. I'm just not going to accept an open-ended statement as the end-all be-all.

 

[Awesmic]

I just wanna say, this is a beautiful debate.