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Yes. (Or it was, longtime since I played)

:9::K: :K::P: :6::P::K::K::P:

Poor guy didn't know if he was coming or going.

I agree massively with this.

3H+K requires no effort, there isn't a "Did I tech them? Did they tech? Do I :P:?" It is throw away, you know where you stand regardless. You also have 3P+K as a mind game. You won't get a FT but if your opponent is teching, you will be at a major advantage. If I want a serious grade of +frames...

Here are some PFT Combo's. Bow before my amazing ability to edit, not make any typo's of things being more + than they are and definitely not clipping the end of any footage by accident and being unable to fix it.

Cap Cap Cap Cap

My theme song for Zack:

He could be in for some good story alright. I loved Eliot in 4, mained him and Tina all he way through.

This is awesome. Just checked it in a match vs. Helena. Can also be done from BT :H+P: :9::P: :6::P::P: :h+k: :7::K: as a bonus note.

@Codemaster92163 - Your Zack is swift and deadly with some crazy combo's and mix ups. Loved it GG. @Hurricane Rev - GG's. Really enjoyed facing off. I'll have to get some more in soon.

@Brute You were lacking some :4::P+K::h4:

So does that just mean that the other does not show the first Rondo move frame? I was ready to throw down a giant formula on how you get there. I did notice that going into BT left you with the expected number but it never twigged why other than "Oh that must be the BT required frames".

The cancel formula extends beyond +35. When you cancel any recovery you've served become start up frames of rondo. So for :6::P::4:... (Taking numbers from heavily used pad so hope I've got the right ones) 12 (2) 18 / -8 on block. 5 (25) 10 / +42 on Parry (first possible frame from block stun)...

Just give him Gen Fu's :3::P::P: but make it so it staggers to -frames for him. It won't be Eliot without pointless sitdowns.

Just a thread so I can keep all the found tech from the early lab days between myself and qoodumai. This way I just know what I'm updating, what I've posted before and qood can just read it quickly and tell me things I need to change. More will follow from this original post including a couple...

I'd check some of the resources that have slowly built up here. If they don't answer anything you have then specifics will help a lot with an answer. Saber's Breakdown Frame Data NinjaCW Tutorial Combo Thread

Someone asked for Pseudo-Force Techs? Qoodumai's lab time is back again! We'll be building a week 1 guide over the next few days of our combined finds (Qood + Me) but I'm back again with another little Marie Rose tip from qood to me to you. Certain setups will get you a nice little pseudo...

Does TN like money?

So qoodumai (previously qoodname of FSD) found something nice last night. We took it to the lab later so I'll share some of the finds. Initial setup is full credit to him. Disclaimer: This was found via lab work. If it exists already then apologies for that. We both prefer to try find our own...