DOA6 Story Discussion

[Mayor-Of-Mustard]

Does story mode unlock anything? I'm still livid over Quest and various fight modes unlocking minuscule amounts of stuff. I can't complete anything past Hard level and can't pull off all requirements to complete a quest.

it unlocks Trivia interactions in the library, most likely scrapped story mode scenes in text form. They're really fun! (they're kind of fanfiction-esque so if you like that sorta thing)
Practice makes perfect AI seems to fall for sidestepping and breakblows quite a lot

 

[KwonJigglypuff]

Speaking of that, Ayane does not have her portrait in the Hall of Fame of Unforgettable (Kasumi, Ryu, Helena and Jann Lee do).

 

[Atahotaku]

Has anyone unlocked the entries for Nyotengu or La Mariposa in the Encyclopedia?

 

[JAG THE GEMINI]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1104643206396825600

It drives me nuts when people say Ayane won DOA3. Does she have the better narrative? Yes! But she did not win the tournament.

But Ayane won! Zack NEVER faced Omega but he won against all the other combatants he met.
But the TRUE victory still goes to Ayane. DOA3 is stilll the best DOA game in many ways including the story

 

[Atahotaku]

But Ayane won! Zack NEVER faced Omega but he won against all the other combatants he met.
But the TRUE victory still goes to Ayane. DOA3 is stilll the best DOA game in many ways including the story

Starting with 3, I think the ninjas didn't proper participate in the tournament, they just beat the boss from that game. Yes, Ayane defeated Genra, but she wasn't a contestant in the DOA3 tournament.

 

[DOAfanforever]

Speaking of that, Ayane does not have her portrait in the Hall of Fame of Unforgettable (Kasumi, Ryu, Helena and Jann Lee do).

What are you talking about? Where did you get that information?

 

[DOAfanforever]

Don't get me wrong, I did consider this like anyone else, but by the offset chance do you have the bracket for DOA3? I think I remember seeing it but the link you gave me offers no citation where she simply offers the title up and has no reason for the money. If that's the case that very statement was never mentioned until DOAD or after and somehow I missed it.

I think "claiming victory" would also insinuate a tournament win, and for further evidence just look at the DOAXVB manual where it says he won and took his winnings with no Ayane mentioned at all. She settled her issues with Genra and that matters most... it's even suggested within DOAD that Genra released Tengu into the wild, and had nothing to do with being a part of the actual tournament. What a hoot.

Out of all of the bosses Raidou seems to be most likely to be a legit combatant in the tournament and not just a DOATEC monster on the loose. As it seems there is evidence that points to him being at the arena that hosted the match.

Ayane winning? Seems like community speculation or a theory to me with nothing as concrete as what is in the writing.

Fair enough, but here's my question. Did ZACK ever beat Genra, who was the final boss in DOA 3? You cannot win the tournament without going through the final boss, and the person who did that, was Ayane.

You're following as to what NEW Team Ninja are putting up as encyclopedia of DOA, and these guys wanted to change a LOT about the lore or DOA throughout the years, like in DOA 1, Kasumi beat Raidou all by herself, but in DOA Dimensions, she wasn't able to beat Raidou without Ryu Hayabusa's assist at the last second, and now, that information is canon.

Another example is in DOA 2 and 3, Kasumi beat Hayate in both games, but now in DOA Dimensions, Hayate beat Kasumi in both games.

New Team Ninja changed a lot of things since Itagaki's departure and Ayane's victory in the 3rd DOA tournament was one of the things they wanted to change, but what's canon is Ayane winning the 3rd DOA tournament, NOT ZACK.

 

[Atahotaku]

Fair enough, but here's my question. Did ZACK ever beat Genra, who was the final boss in DOA 3? You cannot win the tournament without going through the final boss, and the person who did that, was Ayane.

You're following as to what NEW Team Ninja are putting up as encyclopedia of DOA, and these guys wanted to change a LOT about the lore or DOA throughout the years, like in DOA 1, Kasumi beat Raidou all by herself, but in DOA Dimensions, she wasn't able to beat Raidou without Ryu Hayabusa's assist at the last second, and now, that information is canon.

Another example is in DOA 2 and 3, Kasumi beat Hayate in both games, but now in DOA Dimensions, Hayate beat Kasumi in both games.

New Team Ninja changed a lot of things since Itagaki's departure and Ayane's victory in the 3rd DOA tournament was one of the things they wanted to change, but what's canon is Ayane winning the 3rd DOA tournament, NOT ZACK.

Fair enough, but here's my question. Did ZACK ever beat Genra, who was the final boss in DOA 3? You cannot win the tournament without going through the final boss, and the person who did that, was Ayane.

You're following as to what NEW Team Ninja are putting up as encyclopedia of DOA, and these guys wanted to change a LOT about the lore or DOA throughout the years, like in DOA 1, Kasumi beat Raidou all by herself, but in DOA Dimensions, she wasn't able to beat Raidou without Ryu Hayabusa's assist at the last second, and now, that information is canon.

Another example is in DOA 2 and 3, Kasumi beat Hayate in both games, but now in DOA Dimensions, Hayate beat Kasumi in both games.

New Team Ninja changed a lot of things since Itagaki's departure and Ayane's victory in the 3rd DOA tournament was one of the things they wanted to change, but what's canon is Ayane winning the 3rd DOA tournament, NOT ZACK.

I think you're mistaken.

One thing is the tournament, and another one is the final bosses. Bankotsubo, Genra or Alpha-152 weren't contestants in any tournament, so winning against them doesn't mean winning any tournament at all.

 

[DOAfanforever]

I think you're mistaken.

One thing is the tournament, and another one is the final bosses. Bankotsubo, Genra or Alpha-152 weren't contestants in any tournament, so winning against them doesn't mean winning any tournament at all.

Genra in his Omega form was a contestant, since DOATEC changed Genra into his Omega form against his will (Itagaki's lore). But of course, in DOA Dimensions, (Hayashi's lore -_-) they changed it to have Genra working under DOATEC and accepted the change they gave him to be in his Omega form.

Also, if you're gonna be saying that Bankotsubo wasn't a contestant in DOA 2, then you're basically saying Ryu Hayabusa didn't win the 2nd DOA tournament.

 

[KwonJigglypuff]

I think they said Zack "claimed the price", which means (in my opinion) that Ayane was too busy mourning Genra to appreciate her victory. Meaning Zack came second (but is technically the winner).

 

[Atahotaku]

Also, if you're gonna be saying that Bankotsubo wasn't a contestant in DOA 2, then you're basically saying Ryu Hayabusa didn't win the 2nd DOA tournament.

Not at all. He could win the tournament and then slain Bankotsubo

 

[Xhominid The Demon Within]

That's because she did. It was AYANE who fought Genra in his Omega form in DOA 3. NOT ZACK.
It's practically the same as Ryu fighting The Tengu boss in DOA 2, and people say he won that tournament. Whoever beats the final boss in the tournament is the winner of the said tournament. That's how it goes.

Also, look here: https://deadoralive.fandom.com/wiki/Zack

Go to the Third DOA tournament and read there.

Technically, apparently Hayate still helped out Ayane in defeating Genra... sort of(Seems like he did participate but it never really shown past him using Sky Torn Blast against Genra in the entry about STB) but what @deathofaninja was saying is that Zack is the winner of the tournament because technically the ninja stopped participating in the tournaments since DOA2.

And before anyone ask, there's nothing about Kasumi needing Ryu's help against Raidou.

 

[DOAfanforever]

Technically, apparently Hayate still helped out Ayane in defeating Genra... sort of(Seems like he did participate but it never really shown past him using Sky Torn Blast against Genra in the entry about STB) but what @deathofaninja was saying is that Zack is the winner of the tournament because technically the ninja stopped participating in the tournaments since DOA2.

And before anyone ask, there's nothing about Kasumi needing Ryu's help against Raidou.

In DOA Dimensions, you can see clear as day that Ryu threw a kunai knife into Raidou's arm, giving Kasumi the advantage in their Torn Sky Blast Duel. So yeah, he helped.

As for Hayate helping Ayane, yes, that too happened in DOA Dimensions, but in the original lore of DOA, Kasumi did not receive any help from Ryu at all when fighting Raidou, and Ayane didn't receive any help from Hayate against Genra in his Omega form.

As for ninjas competing in the 3rd DOA tournament, the ninjas that participated were Ryu, Hayate, and Ayane. The only person who didn't participate in that tournament was Kasumi. It wasn't until DOA 5 that all of the ninjas didn't participate.

 

[Xhominid The Demon Within]

In DOA Dimensions, you can see clear as day that Ryu threw a kunai knife into Raidou's arm, giving Kasumi the advantage in their Torn Sky Blast Duel. So yeah, he helped.

As for Hayate helping Ayane, yes, that too happened in DOA Dimensions, but in the original lore of DOA, Kasumi did not receive any help from Ryu at all when fighting Raidou, and Ayane didn't receive any help from Hayate against Genra in his Omega form.

As for ninjas competing in the 3rd DOA tournament, the ninjas that participated were Ryu, Hayate, and Ayane. The only person who didn't participate in that tournament was Kasumi. It wasn't until DOA 5 that all of the ninjas didn't participate.

Except the DOA6 Encyclopedia put both of those in the non-canon state as for Kasumi it mentions nothing of Ryu's presence at all and it's potentially the same for Ayane as even when it talks about what I was saying, you can interpret he used it against Genra before Donovan fully had him in his grasp.

So it seems those 2 events was changed.

 

[DOAfanforever]

Except the DOA6 Encyclopedia put both of those in the non-canon state as for Kasumi it mentions nothing of Ryu's presence at all and it's potentially the same for Ayane as even when it talks about what I was saying, you can interpret he used it against Genra before Donovan fully had him in his grasp.

So it seems those 2 events was changed.

Sounds to me that you only believe as to what some encyclopedia says, and not seeing it yourself in the previous DOA games.

You don't believe my word for it. Just play the game and see for yourself. The proof is in the pudding for Ryu assisting Kasumi against Raidou by playing DOA Dimensions.

The DOA 6 Encyclopedia can say all it wants, but actions speak louder than words do in previous DOA games. That encyclopedia is just a reliable as people using Wikipedia for their information; worthless.

 

[Ninoasker]

you’re really talking like it was something that happened irl and not a fictional story for a game that writers can mess with whenever they want to cause they’re the owners of the franchise

 

[DOAfanforever]

you’re really talking like it was something that happened irl and not a fictional story for a game that writers can mess with whenever they want to cause they’re the owners of the franchise
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I never said it happened in real life, but I do see your point in how I spoke of the matter of the lore. I admit it, the die hard fanboy in me got loose, so I apologize.

I just like sticking with the canon wise story of DOA I know and grew up with, and I hate all these constant changes New Team Ninja has made for certain characters ever since Itagaki's departure.

 

[deathofaninja]

I still don't see the proof in Ayane getting the win. Team NINJA doesn't say anywhere that she won the tournament to my knowledge. Not in the lore, not pre-DOAD... literally nowhere does it say whoever slays the boss wins the tournament and it is fan theory that Ayane won. They are just assuming because Kasumi and Ryu were written in as winners for slaying their perspective bosses that Ayane must be too, and it isn't exactly proof.

AND I wasn't mixing up the Itagaki narrative with DOAD. I was just further demonstrating the lack of proof that she won, even in that game, but I totally see where you're coming from because it doesn't help that Team NINJA cherry picked so many different topics from the Itagaki narrative and combined them with their own.

 

[KwonJigglypuff]

What are you talking about? Where did you get that information?

Sorry for the late answer. I didn't have the opportunity to take a screenshot.

This is my theory, but I believe the portraits hooked in the Hall of Fame are the winners in DOA history : Ryu (DOA2), Jann Lee (DOA5), Helena (DOA4) and Kasumi (DOA1). The fact there are no Zack is a bit confusing now... I mean, it was said he claimed the price in DOA3, Helena gave him the title in DOA4 for saving her life... I think he deserves it haha! But apparently no!

 

[Mayor-Of-Mustard]

i didn't read all the epic lore arguing, but i thought helena won and gave the prize money to zack?