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ninjaguy446
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The only reason anyone dislikes 5 is because of the characters. Balance wise, Soul Calibur 5 is the most balanced out of the series. So, Soul Calibur 5 is superior to 4.
DeathHand
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I was thinking when u teleport against a slow move, imagine doing that during that sloooow bayman kick (ppk I think),u dont need to see if its a middle or high kick or roundhouse, the hayate player will get the opportunity to counter very easily when he gets behind u, unlike his cartwell,the cartweel doesnt dodge kicks like a roundhouse.
"Bayman does his back roll at the same time cays its gunna be funny if I end up behind Hayate when he tries that shit lol"
u will get a realy good oportunity to attack =o ,still even if u roll front during the teleport u will get a good safe distance to have time to turn
TheDragonWarrior
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Hahahaha...well no one is perfect. Is it not my right to stop playing? I feel after his previous nerfs....to remove his DG options is going too far. Of course this is only my opinion...just a personal perception. Forgive if it causes you to tizzy emotionally.
Jan Lee is a great, threatening character without Dragon Gunner.
If you don't realize that, you need to spend more time breaking down your character. A lot more.
His previous nerf was taking away a guaranteed cb set up that was way too easy to get and they changed the stun on 1pk to make it to where you could hold. Very legit nerfs
Codemaster92163
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That would be why I prefer SCIV. I dislike all the changes they did to the characters and their movelists. Plus, I wasn't too fond of random wake-up-invincible-frame-supers, either. But that's just me.
i think all of Bayman's kicks are mids actually now that i think about it,his knee,the spin kick,the spartan kick,heel stomp, i think he has ONE high kick which puts them into BT but its just to dam slow. no wonder i was getting mid kick held so much in my last match
yeah but thats not nearly as fun, i can imagine it now
"ah ha!...wait where did he *crack* "
Omegan Eckhart
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Every character appears to be getting new tools in 5U. I'll be more than happy if they nerf Jann's DG and give him other tools that are just as good but not as brain dead to use.
Jaguar360
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It reminds me more of Hayabusa's 7K from DOA1 along with the other ninjas' 7K's.
Codemaster92163
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I just realized. Teleporting will be really bad against Bass...
TheDragonWarrior
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Hmm...that's just your opinion though...you feel those things hold true. What you see...is entirely different from what another sees, correct? Even pros can't say if a character is good or not...even tiers are based on an opinion of how characters stack up. There's no definite proof that Jann is good without DG, is there? Only a general consensus of how the majority feels maybe....I feel I've played Jann enough to understand him quite a bit. >_O
More like you've spammed Dragon Gunner enough to realize you don't know how to do anything else.
TheDragonWarrior
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So you say...I feel they weren't...that's just me. Also...you could hold 1pk even before the nerfs. O_O Anywho...I was talking about the DB nerf...why have the animation, but neglect the options?
TheDragonWarrior
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Really...? Why assume something you don't know? You have never played me, nor do you know me. Why such hollow insults? I didn't insult you...lets please be mature. Otherwise...I'd rather not converse with someone who seems to be so childish.
Zeo
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Or really good. It'll be all about the timing but yeah, huge risk/reward case vs that guy.
Not quite enough.
- He had a braindead combo (PK) into guaranteed CB (Patched out)
- He has an 11 frame mid, the fastest mid in the game
- Some of the best range in the game
- Safety
- Insane damage
- Decent tracking moves
- Tons of guaranteed setups
- Decent low game
On top of all this despite being a striker he has an offensive hold (and the only striker with one until we get Ein) that not only guarantees 66K into a wall but also a mixup into Launch or potential Critical Burst? 5U he's already getting more mixups and advantage on block, he doesn't NEED the OH mixup. That's fact, not opinion. He's in the top 15 if not 10 best characters in the game already.
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[quote="TheDragonWarrior, post: 114200, member:So you say...I feel they weren't...that's just me. Also...you could hold 1pk even before the nerfs. O_O Anywho...I was talking about the DB nerf...why have the animation, but neglect the options?[/quote]
If I stunned you with 1pk before the patch you couldnt hold afterwards. Come on jan lee guy you should know this. Or are you too busy using dragon gunner
If I stunned you with 1pk before the patch you couldnt hold afterwards. Come on jan lee guy you should know this. Or are you too busy using dragon gunner
Bayman also has that back grab,but it looks like the teleport leaves Hayate in a crouch
It's not a hollow insult. You feel that Jann Lee would be ruined without Dragon Gunner when in reality he has many other options. If you used those options, you would be acknowledging their merit.
For example: If I said: "Rig can only fight with punches," you would say: "No, he has good kicks and decent throws as well. Try using them." Then, my response (in your fashion) would be: "Really...? Why assume something you don't know? You have never played me, nor do you know me. Why such hollow insults?"
It's just absurdity. A Jann Lee main should know better than this.
TheDragonWarrior
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So...you are the creator of the game? You decide what is needed and what is not? Whatever his arsenal may be it's still only how you feel. Others may feel different, or rather...if it's not too much trouble show me where the creators say his OH mixups aren't needed. Other characters have 9f jabs as opposed to other characters, no? Mentioning it serves what purpose?
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