Why is DOA 4.0 better than 4.1?

Umm yeah?

Sorry I know there are a lot of specifics but if someone has the time can they break it down?

I think in part since we are starting to get more traffic, info like this could be useful.

For one since I'm doing the offline thing, I was thinking of setting up an Xbox for 4.0 if it was worth it.

really it comes down to per character. Most changes were wither certain moves stunned in 4.0 do not anymore in 4.1 Same with launchers. I think there was saome frame rate changes as well. Lol Really dont remember. I had the notes some were but since lost them. Ill keep looking for them. I think at one point they were on DOAC Im sure someone has them

mostly on the online version damage were dropped and frame rates changed as well as criticals taken out. You could read anything missing a Cr as no longer stuns. Here is a quick video to show you how to compare the info of both files. Also my voice sucks its kinda nasally lol



Ok here is the files for everyone. Again no Tengu or Spartan. Cant find the files for them.
Each is zipped with both 4.0 and 4.1 inside each folder. Again this is just data, but gives you the frame/dmg data. Also remember any online play or offline tournaments for DOA4 are going to be played in 4.1 version. SO be sure to remember that info. Enjoy

Ive tested a few of the downloads but not all if any issues let me know.

Ayane: http://www.mediafire.com/?a92j7ox9skiocay
Bass: http://www.mediafire.com/?4i2v9d481pr1na9
Bayman: http://www.mediafire.com/?3flj07l7du4ai03
Brad: http://www.mediafire.com/?1mlw9i1spnlmxem
Christie: http://www.mediafire.com/?zg35z1vid68dk3d
Ein: http://www.mediafire.com/?jxtmdaxg2s2ix2i
Eliot: http://www.mediafire.com/?5hirql7t1tfalhx
Gen Fu: http://www.mediafire.com/?1q9nnbplcdwmbqp
Hayabusa: http://www.mediafire.com/?rvllk618qpkgnqx
hayate: http://www.mediafire.com/?76r8383is63omhe
Helena: http://www.mediafire.com/?0rxz5fdto7luguy
Hitomi: http://www.mediafire.com/?0oonommux0bcn6a
Jann Lee: http://www.mediafire.com/?c3u9cezn4sd31vb
kasumi: http://www.mediafire.com/?d1oft2dd8k1bt6w
kokoro: http://www.mediafire.com/?l0bpjgnk4tnv55h
Lei Fang: http://www.mediafire.com/?wzhrnn6dmb63e0k
Leon: http://www.mediafire.com/?0xqu8lev1hvzkam
Lisa: http://www.mediafire.com/?dmtubuxmyhydl3g
Tina: http://www.mediafire.com/?imrn3n3ry5k355v
Zack: http://www.mediafire.com/?vjg3ajk1gve46gv

Here is the online links if you don't feel like downloading. No Tengu or Spartan.


Lisa: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-la_mariposa-e.html
Hayate: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-hayate-e.html
Bass: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-bass-e.html
Bayman: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-bayman-e.html
Ayane: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-ayane-e.html
Ein: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-ein-e.html
Christie: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-christie-e.html
Eliot: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-eliot-e.html
Gen Fu: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-gen_fu-e.html
Brad: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-brad_wong-e.html
Helena: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-helena-e.html
Jann Lee: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-jann_lee-e.html
Hitomi: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-hitomi-e.html
Kokoro: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-kokoro-e.html
Kasumi: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-kasumi-e.html
lei fang: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-leifang-e.html
leon: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-leon-e.html
Tina: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-tina-e.html
Zack: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-zack-e.html
Ryu: http://www.deadoralive.jp/doa4/al/al_select-hayabusa-e.html

Thanks for doing this!

4.0? Dude, I can tell you stories... about Christie. I may not be strat-savvy about it, but at least it's in my own words through my own experience.

Christie was a BAMF IMO. Granted, her throws still weren't strong, but her normal stance moves were so strong (especially her pokes and 6p strings, which were as effective as Gen Fu's) that almost all her stance moves were pretty dad-gummed useless in comparison, save for maybe the stance throw. And Christie's launchers with THAT kind of gravity? Holy shit. Back in the day, they were scary, but 4f+k was a particularly nasty (yet commonly abused) move. Even heavyweights were no exception to the rule, as you could get decent damage even off of them.

That's all I know. If only I knew then what I knew after February '06...

Ditto Hayate went from being top tier to mid lol. Then again I also remember back in the day Hayate could just kart wheel dodge everything lol. Oh thos were the days.

I also uploaded the files above

Hmm so since I'm primarily into Offline gaming atm, sticking with 4.0 maybe beneficial in some sense?

I mean I'll tell people about the online update, but messing around with it might be fun, no? Especially since DOA4 isn't being played at any tourneys I know about.

deff could. I haven't done it in forever but I use to get a new name play online to an A+ then update and start over. It would let yah play online without updating was always fun. You just got a warning every time you clicked online. Never knew if it actual played 4.0 online or not lol never actual tested the diff. Both have there pro n cons so i could see it having its benefits

That's a dam shame =/
I guess all we can do is hope that DOA5 will give us what we should have had already and even more, for the most part.

also just thought about it. I know the frame rates and damages have been brought up on the podcast. I thought about posting it under its own thread so people can find them. But didn't know if it was really needed since its all here. But maybe a sticky under the doa4 thread maybe a good idea. Up to you guys lol.

4.0 was really like 3.9, I remember Itagaki saying they were pressured to release an unfinished game. Same with DOA3 really, the US version was basically 2.9. That's my way of looking at it anyway.

yah i forgot how hard it was till other day, I was messing around with Leon trying to get his air grab, Seemed like I just couldn't get the height off stun lol

I just remembered Chrsitie's bt punch having insane relaunching ability, shame it went away.

Did any of you ever try to contact Tecmo after 4.1?

Look, I personally love DOA4 but if so many people had a problem with it. . .I mean didn't some vineberryman or something mock up a bunch of changes to DOA4? Why didn't, or don't, you guys send them that?

And if you did then I'd love some pussy before I leave this thread

I've asked this before, but I don't suppose there's any way to access the posts I made on DOAC about the TGS and X05 builds of DOA4?

As I recall, the X05 build had VF-like stepping, frame advantage, etc. It was really nice.

That's quite a bold statement. I agree that the X05 build of DOA4 was definitely superior to the retail release and DOA4.1, but I cannot agree that it was going to be the 3D fighter.

We were in contact with Tecmo during the development of DOA4 and we are still in contact with Tecmo. DOA5 is looking to be a direct result of that contact, but we'll see how it shapes up over the next year.

As of now, Doa is pretty much an anime 2D fighter with 3D backgrounds and art assets.

I suppose you would step to set up wall carries and combos, but that's pretty much it.